72 player instances make Forked Tower incredibly painful to do.

[MicahZerrshia]

There is also the fact that many ppl want you to be in their premade groups and will refuse to heal or raise you if you're not, in casual content that is open, has entry requirements that are not easy to come by and is not just queuable by groups.

They got this so wrong is Eureka with BA, got it right in Bozja and just went back to the bad Eureka decision afterward. I thought they were supposed to be learning and improving this sort of content and not going backwards. Why are they making content that is supposed to be casual, so easily gate kept behind rando discord groups? I mean i am fine joining discord for call outs, but I don't want to be in any discord for FFXIV, I have been in a few and yikes, just yikes. iykyk

[opaltatcoeurl]

There is also the fact that many ppl want you to be in their premade groups and will refuse to heal or raise you if you're not, in casual content that is open, has entry requirements that are not easy to come by and is not just queuable by groups.

They got this so wrong is Eureka with BA, got it right in Bozja and just went back to the bad Eureka decision afterward. I thought they were supposed to be learning and improving this sort of content and not going backwards. Why are they making content that is supposed to be casual, so easily gate kept behind rando discord groups? I mean i am fine joining discord for call outs, but I don't want to be in any discord for FFXIV, I have been in a few and yikes, just yikes. iykyk

Yeah, if the instance was bigger you could more realistically just form groups in instance, much like how JP does BA. But with the smaller instances, it's so much less feasible, especially with many people leveling up in instances still. Even as a regular in many of the discord servers that organize it I really hate how they try to hold a monopoly on the instances, but with the instance size as it is it's gonna end up like BA again where you can only ever do it with one of the Discords.

[CNitsah]

There is also the fact that many ppl want you to be in their premade groups and will refuse to heal or raise you if you're not, in casual content that is open, has entry requirements that are not easy to come by and is not just queuable by groups.

They got this so wrong is Eureka with BA, got it right in Bozja and just went back to the bad Eureka decision afterward. I thought they were supposed to be learning and improving this sort of content and not going backwards. Why are they making content that is supposed to be casual, so easily gate kept behind rando discord groups? I mean i am fine joining discord for call outs, but I don't want to be in any discord for FFXIV, I have been in a few and yikes, just yikes. iykyk

Because SE has only 2 publics in mind. Casuals and the most invested players. In their mind, casuals only do msq/raids/raid 24. Everything else has to be aimed for most invested players, which do high raids, ... that require a high lvl of communication. They ignore all the other publics. All the people that want something mildly challenging that don't ask for a discord are ignored. I feel like they did it well enough with Delubrum reginae, with its normal mode being challenging and its savage mode being aimed at players who wanted more.

My real fear (hope? Idk I read everything and its opposite on that one) is that forked tower will be needed for part 2 and they will have to change things because people will be locked away from northern part of the island because of how forked tower ask for communication and will be only clearable with discord, and even that is hard to organise due to how they designed the thing. BA had the good taste to be at the end of the whole thing. From what I read, BA is basically DRS in term of difficulty with BA entering condition.

Honestly, SE should learn to listen to the casuals when it come to casual design, hardcore/most dedicated players when it comes to high end content and somewhere in the middle when it comes to retention content aimed to everyone. Stop listening to people that always want thing to be harder for content meant for everyone/people that just want things with mild challenge that don't ask for too much inverstment.