So you acknowledge atma farm was awful but do it again 12 sec later?

[Jeeqbit]

More complaining their relics aren't done in 12 hours.

That's what it comes down to. I just started today and in just about 3-4 hours I already have 3 Atma. I'm not even trying to get it. I'm literally just trying to level my Phantom jobs and fit in a moment to progress my quests. And I already have 3/18.

[Teno]

In typical japanese fashion they're currently tackling feedback from 4 years back, that may explain the current situation.

[Rolder50]

As I posted in another thread, there is a middle ground between "Basically free" and "Awful RNG Grind"

Basically just take whatever the rates would look like after a nerf and do that now and it'd be fine.

[Derio]

I just wish there was a pity system. I shouldnt go 6 hours without seeing at least one drop. After at least 30 Fates I should get a guaranteed 1 drop.

[Devotions]

Honestly I'm not hating it. I'm 10/18 right now, but most of that was today because RNG was bad yesterday. But the zone is fun, it literally forces you to pause every few hours to rezone, so I take breaks and come back a little later... I'm not mad. For a one-time thing, I can handle an atma grind. If it were for every single weapon, yeah, I would be upset. But this is fine. I've been doing a few hours in the evening, and I'm content with it taking a week or so.

[Jeeqbit]

I just wish there was a pity system. I shouldnt go 6 hours without seeing at least one drop. After at least 30 Fates I should get a guaranteed 1 drop.

It's meant to be a long-term grind. Just something you come back to and chill for a few hours each day for a while. You can treat it as a social occasion to talk to people in Party Chat or Shout Chat. That's what made it great in ARR and Heavensward. The opportunity for social interaction that some players struggle to find in this game for some reason.

It's literally day 2. We have *looks at watch* 3 months until the next major patch? If they make it so you can be done day2 then the next thing we'll see is complaints that there's nothing to do and people saying "play other games". Devs can't win on these forums.

[Amh_Wilzuun]

I don't care that the atma is grindy... Plenty to do in Occult Crescent and it's a one time step. Doubt everyone complaining is that far into OC

[Hallarem]

In typical japanese fashion they're currently tackling feedback from 4 years back, that may explain the current situation.

Hard to expect anything revolutionary from a nation that just gave up floppydisks and still use fax machines.
I'm surprised they arent using smokesigns to do liveletters. The liveletters are a good system, but are pretty much PR and not about answering questions or feedback, would kill for a roadmap every now and then but all we get is "please look forward to it" and at worst the Japanese "no" in 50 different flavors because they cant actually utter the word "NO" to requests and keep you hoping for years.

[Doomfist]

I feel like I'll get all the atma before maxing 2 phantom jobs or getting even 1 part of the gold coin glam I want. Only need 7 more atma pieces for the first relic step.

[Asari5]

yeah thats rng... of course there are a few people who only need like 20 fates for it xD. think of the ones who need like 500 fates