We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Doomed_Raven]

People don't buy games because of ugly armors, ugly characters

Precisely, RPGs (ones where you create a character) are a power fantasy. No one wants to play as a character who is not aesthetically pleasing. People want their character to look cool/hot/heroic. Or maybe just to replicate a character from another IP they like (who will also have one of those above attributes).

[Siddiax]

I think SE doesn't realize how much this will bring people back to the game.

Flexibility of glamour/transmog is just absolutely significant.

People don't buy games because of ugly armors, ugly characters, and people quit games because of inability to change how they look.

Absolutely. I'd say a lot of people (especially outside this thread) really underestimate how much players value glamour and looking the way they want.

If I had unrestricted glamour, I'd be collecting significantly more pieces than I currently do. That would also mean staying subscribed longer, which ultimately is a net positive for SE.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Page 2? Oh no you don't-

Another day, another opportunity to flaunt as a WAR in beachwear---

Release.The.Restriction.Cowards.

[Lorika]

Soooooo.... People are crying about job identity but they want to wear others jobs armor... it's me or there is quite a paradox here.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Not really. When people talk about job identity, they're mostly referring to play style, not glamour.

[Saraide]

Soooooo.... People are crying about job identity but they want to wear others jobs armor... it's me or there is quite a paradox here.

That's you, when people talk about job identity they mean gameplay. You are like SE however where you think job identity = fireworks.

[Lorika]

That's you, when people talk about job identity they mean gameplay. You are like SE however where you think job identity = fireworks.

Well yes, job identity = visual.... it's different from job gameplay.

[Saraide]

Well yes, job identity = visual.... it's different from job gameplay.

When people talk about job identity they mean gameplay. You use a different definition of those terms. Glad I could clear up this misunderstanding.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Well yes, job identity = visual.... it's different from job gameplay.

I would say job identity includes both gameplay and job lore. While you can include the lore-based, iconic outfits such as AF gear in that category, it’s been made more than clear throughout this and other similar threads, that the role restrictions on all other gear is mostly arbitrary.

Sets change roles when used for recolors all the time. Some jobs don’t really fit into their overall role style-wise as well as others; like DNC in Aiming, or PCT in Casting. We already have both level one glam gear AND tome gear that breaks these arbitrary role restrictions: Yoshi P’s “BLM in heavy armor” was given not one but two Caster tome sets in EW! But more importantly, it has already been done in the past. Gear that was originally role-restricted was changed to All Classes. It’s long overdue to go back and release those restrictions for 60-90 level gear, at least, and get on a schedule going forward that only current expansion gear has role restrictions that get released when the next expansion comes out.

If our character can be all classes, there’s no good reason they can’t mix and match gear sets. And I would argue that you could actually get closer to the idea of “what job X should look like,” with restrictions removed. Just for one recent example, DNC having the ability to use the Moonward Veil of Scouting.

[Darkstride]

Well yes, job identity = visual.... it's different from job gameplay.

I would agree that job-specific gear (like artifact armor) should remain locked, but I see no reason why generic caster gear couldn't be worn by other roles, or the other way around. We already have plenty of glamour options that defy the idea of "this is what this role should look like". They can't defend the need to have strict role identity from a glamour perspective when you can already tank in a bikini or a chicken suit. Why restrict everything else when they've already introduced plenty of gear that conflicts with it?