Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
Just look at how the relics and daily quests evolved, or rather devolved.

ARR relic: basically a game in itself
EW relic: yeah just bring me stuff for 6000 poetics you can buy from the NPC one aetheryte teleport away from here.
Um, no. You're grossly mischaracterizing the EW relic quest. We had to play through the all prior Manderville and then the ones in EW, do several fights, and at the time, gather some specific NON-poetics to buy the materials for various upgrades. (Which like a lot of other things they've now switched to poetics as game advances.)

Took a chunk of time and commitment, but I'll grant you it wasn't the utter crapfest of "put an entire game's worth of time and work into just getting ONE level of ONE weapon... and then here you go, several MORE levels to do the same for" that ARR and HW require.

A family member wanted to group-do the ARR relics. I got as far as getting through the initial round of fates from all over, collecting the special stones that *sometimes* drop, turn in, get the relic---then I got to the books level. And found out just how much time and effort I'd have to pour into getting ONE book done, much less multiples... and that there were several more levels of weapon after that. Hard nope. Another family member (with enormous capacity to mindlessly grind things forever) DID go through all that, and more power to him... but not me.

I hate the ARR (and HW, because he told me about progressing through those as well) relic quests: they're designed to "keep people busy, drain time and funds from players with an excess of both," and I'm not enamored of the weapon looks, either. I also hate PoD, which is another place you can eventually get "glowy" weapons.

So, with the EW quests involving Manderville, to finally get a cool glowy weapon (and the version to stick in glam chest) plus it being one we could *allot* some of the point distribution for on the actual weapon, was awesome.

The people complaining that "others got a cool glowy weapon without committing 2 years of their life and their firstborn child in order to get it," sound like my cronies complaining kids no longer have to walk uphill in the snow both ways, to get to school.

Bottom line: ARR and HW (and others, I would presume) relic quests are STILL the PitA you love so much, and anyone wanting those has to go through it. EW's being simplified and more straight-forward didn't take away one iota from the ones you love... but they sure were a nice option for those of us who DON'T want to grind forever and fifty years through multiple weapon levels just to get something that is pretty, glows, and very likely has already been out-classed, power-wise, by more recent weapon releases in other areas.