M6s in PF is the most miserable and unfun high end fight in the game

[Kohashi]

Sure, snakes in p8s caused a lot of wipes. P12s was also pretty miserable to progress in pf. These are 4th fights - I find myself more tolerant of this sort of thing in a 4th fight. M6s is a 2nd fight, which I do not think should have such a large roadblock for pf. Also, compared to m6s adds, snakes in p8s were ridiculously easy for pf.

P6s vs P7s would like to have a word with you
P10s vs p11s would like to as well.

Anything else? Ah yes, the Snek prior and easy for PF cannot go together, sorry.

[Absurdity]

P6s vs P7s would like to have a word with you
P10s vs p11s would like to as well.

Anything else? Ah yes, the Snek prior and easy for PF cannot go together, sorry.

Not sure I'd count the Abyssos fights, P6S was a complete joke as soon as you realized there were only two patterns, especially when you cheesed Cachexia 2 like most of party finder.
And the hardest part of P7S was remembering to hold your 6 minute burst until after Immortal's Obol, Harvests weren't particularly difficult either if you used Inumaru instead of Hector.

P5S was probably the bigger wall because people in PF just couldn't do Venom Squall without killing each other consistently.

[Kohashi]

Not sure I'd count the Abyssos fights, P6S was a complete joke as soon as you realized there were only two patterns, especially when you cheesed Cachexia 2 like most of party finder.
And the hardest part of P7S was remembering to hold your 6 minute burst until after Immortal's Obol, Harvests weren't particularly difficult either if you used Inumaru instead of Hector.

P5S was probably the bigger wall because people in PF just couldn't do Venom Squall without killing each other consistently.

Why would you even kill anyone with that? All you had to do was sit in your spot and let it resolve..
As for Cahexia, you are right, but that wasn't the sore point of the fight.

The reason why Abyssos was actually difficult compared with other tiers is that it never had looped mechanics. This tier is also very close to that, but a little easier than Abyssos.

but i was stuck 3 weeks on M6 add phase, this is just insanity.

People got more gear in 3 weeks, they are still equally bad, but less apparent now.

[-Xenia-]

P6s vs P7s would like to have a word with you
P10s vs p11s would like to as well.

Anything else? Ah yes, the Snek prior and easy for PF cannot go together, sorry.

Yes, sometimes the 3rd fight is easier than the 2nd. Happened again here. Doesn't change my point - m6s adds phase is like 4th fight level difficulty not 2nd nor 3rd. The only thing that makes it somewhat understandable is that the design is such that better gear makes it a lot easier.

Also never said p8s snakes were easy for pf. Easier than m6s adds though, for sure.

[Atreides]

Yes, sometimes the 3rd fight is easier than the 2nd. Happened again here. Doesn't change my point - m6s adds phase is like 4th fight level difficulty not 2nd nor 3rd. The only thing that makes it somewhat understandable is that the design is such that better gear makes it a lot easier.

Also never said p8s snakes were easy for pf. Easier than m6s adds though, for sure.

What's funny is that even M8S has an add phase, but the damage check there is a complete joke by comparison. The fight is definitely faster paced and has more mechanics overall, but none of the groups I joined struggled with any phase nearly as much as they did with the adds in M6S. This is all from Party Finder experience, of course statics might have a completely different perspective on this tier.

[ServerCollaps]

What's funny is that even M8S has an add phase, but the damage check there is a complete joke by comparison. The fight is definitely faster paced and has more mechanics overall, but none of the groups I joined struggled with any phase nearly as much as they did with the adds in M6S. This is all from Party Finder experience, of course statics might have a completely different perspective on this tier.

i think 2 wolf heads that just die hardly qualifies as "add phase"