Cosmic Exploration is CASUAL content with a pinch of midcore

[hydralus]

Thanks, yeah that's what was puzzling me. I do quite a bit of crafting and gathering, and am finding some of Cosmic Exploration... an okay diversion. But I have no interest in getting relic tools.

As a casual crafter/gatherer I find the Red Alerts rather more compelling than the actual crafting and gathering. The lunar hellscape isn't attractive and makes gathering difficult for me because I can barely see the nodes.

I said before that if this is supposed to be the next housing area it is remarkable they found an area more grey than Ishgard. A shame the red alerts don't have rainbow mode like ocean fishing has. Maybe a solar ray shower or something (it might have that I dunno I haven't seen all the red alerts.)

[s32ialx]

I would say its more that Dynamis is where new players are going, as in those who don't have experience with all the harder parts of crafting and likely don't have much gil to their name to buy the things they want or need. (With higher marked up prices on everything no less.)

Being under-geared and under-funded probably makes failing the phases even worse because they have to contend with not only a lack of people, but provisions too. I doubt there's a lot of them carrying around stacks of food, cordials, or even basic materia (pentameld or not).

They can't even fallback on just data center hopping like everything else either, because the content is locked per world, and just telling them to "farm gil then" isn't the glowing endorsement for the game's content that some people want to think it is.
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If you've been fortunate enough to be surrounded by nothing but sweethearts throughout your time playing the game, good for you, but that hasn't been my experience at all, at least not when trying to do raids or PVP on Aether and Primal. I don't know about Crystal, I only go there to shop. (Though I do make the conscious decision to skip Balmung even if it has the cheapest price ...just in case.)

And what sanctions? It's not like GMs actually care so its pointless to report it, not that filling a ticket is a simple matter anyway.

Actually GM's do care to a point if you actually report I have been sent to Morden Gaol a couple times already over players twisting my words which just gave me the reason to turn it around and report them instead since I save logs in screenshots of conversations which are timestamped.

[s32ialx]

You already talked about people being poor so why would you suggest buying tokens as an option? They're FATEs, they're soloable and most anyone can do them (aside, I guess, from the folks who fail solo duties). But yes there are other aspects of the game you might miss out on if you aren't a player that can commit many hours to it. Even if it's not you in this hypothetical scenario, my response remains the same. If you/they feel so distraught when they see another person has something they don't, then single player games are where it's at. If that's what these hypothetical people are thinking, they need to unironically grow up a little. It honestly sounds like a tiring existence that they need to move on from.

I'm done conversing with you as well, but I never suggested people buy the Turali Bicolor Gemstone Voucher I was making a point that they are outrageously out of reach of casual players for casual content considering you need what was it like 5000 of them for the mount?

[Gurgeh]

Something can be hardcore for no other reason than suddenly throwing a massive difficulty spike at you because somebody on the dev team thought it would be funny.

Hilarious example just tonight; I assumed Sightseeing Logs to be casual content until some buffoon decided I needed to do jumping puzzles for some of the Stormblood ones, thus rendering 100% completion impossible unless I'm good enough. Of which I am not, so I guess I'm done with this piece of content (because why even bother collecting them from Shadowbringers and beyond if it'll never be completely done?)
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Holy, sh!
I hadn't realised! Lol.
Yes that's when I lost interest in sightseeing too! At the time I wasn't as disgruntled as I am now so never examined/noticed how/when/why it happened.
I just used to go back and complete a bit of sight seeing in a whim. But suddenly I stopped doing that.
And when it comes to jumping puzzles I assumed that was a me thing and thought nothing of it. I'm just really bad at them.
But yes! I stopped even bothering to clear sightseeing orbs that even just ran past.
Never going to 'complete' SB. Sure a hell don't want to try.
Guess we're done.
Ah meh. Not bothered. Just not bothered.

[hydralus]

Also funnily enough items being in the gacha roll makes them cheaper overall. Since people are forced to get duplicates of things they don't want they'll chuck it on the marketboard and undercut like mad. It takes time to build up 6000+ points for the shop. You can buy a 6000 point item, sell it, and buy anything you could want from the gacha. If the mount was 9900 points, you'd actually be worse off. Not to even mention the dyes, which are absolutely dirt cheap.

Will this be the case in the future? Who knows. Coffer o' Kupos and casual wear coffers are still sitting around 100,000 gil a piece though if Ishgard restoration is any measure.

[Misutoraru]

Causal or hardcore, there is no standard definition. Something can be hardcore for a player but causal for someone else.

No point arguing what content is causal or hardcore. Everyone has a different view.

As some one barely touch crafting I would not call A rank easy, and does need a bit of investment (so far I have orange script left side with orange script main hand) 51xx stat and I could reliable get silver on some A rank. So even a for newbie it is dorable just need some gear investment

Gathering is absolutely worse implementation in cosmic exploration. Especially fishing which RNG could really troll you in A rank

Red alert is an alternate, certain not as fast as doing A rank if you could manage silver. So far I have see Red alert pop between 3-6 hours and the stage FATE seems to reset it. Unlike Fete without a timer it is a hit or miss for some players who don’t have all day to camp in game. Hope it will have a timer once the whole cosmic exploration progression is done


Ground support in Mech Ops is disappointing. Reward is so poor unless you run out of the buff, it is not worth doing it.

Overall I feel scammingway is nicer than kupo of fortune as least there are multiple way to earn credit and the crafting side provides all the material you need.

Overall, I think it is enjoyable. Again no point calling it causal or hardcore.

[Arohk]

Holy, sh!
I hadn't realised! Lol.
Yes that's when I lost interest in sightseeing too! At the time I wasn't as disgruntled as I am now so never examined/noticed how/when/why it happened.
I just used to go back and complete a bit of sight seeing in a whim. But suddenly I stopped doing that.
And when it comes to jumping puzzles I assumed that was a me thing and thought nothing of it. I'm just really bad at them.
But yes! I stopped even bothering to clear sightseeing orbs that even just ran past.
Never going to 'complete' SB. Sure a hell don't want to try.
Guess we're done.
Ah meh. Not bothered. Just not bothered.

The only casual content in the game is standing around in limsa and spamming emotes by your guys defintion.´, becausse anything that requires moving your character around seems too difficult.

[Gurgeh]

The only casual content in the game is standing around in limsa and spamming emotes by your guys defintion.´, becausse anything that requires moving your character around seems too difficult.

Well... I tell I lie. I did try the SB tower jumping puzzle it seemed impossible, at least on my controller. I made no consistent progress after two days and had miles to go.
I'm bad at it. AND IT'S NOT FUN ANYWAY for me. I enjoy improving at things. This I do not enjoy getting better at.
There is nothing unusual, or odd about liking Alpha 3 normal, or ShB Ex1 blind, but not liking jumping puzzles.
Nothing at all.
And if you think that is odd and unacceptable, then just <insert correctively disparaging comment aimed at you, here>

[s32ialx]

If you say so, but these days I prefer to just stay quiet and keep group content to a bare minimum so I don't invite any rudeness to begin with, or feel like I was dragging other people down.

Which makes for a twisted irony that I spend time on Dynamis more than ever, but there's nobody here anyway so the game just remains perpetually lonely or feeling like a single player game with the occasional multiplayer lobby.

* head pets * I am sorry that people have treated you poorly.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

One thing that I'd like them to do is to decouple the Lunar Credits bonus off the relic weapon. Keeping them means I'd feel inclined to keep them somewhere attainable in future expansions should I want to farm the currency.

[...]If you've been fortunate enough to be surrounded by nothing but sweethearts throughout your time playing the game, good for you, but that hasn't been my experience at all, at least not when trying to do raids or PVP on Aether and Primal. I don't know about Crystal, I only go there to shop. (Though I do make the conscious decision to skip Balmung even if it has the cheapest price ...just in case.)

And what sanctions? It's not like GMs actually care so its pointless to report it, not that filling a ticket is a simple matter anyway.

Sh!tty players are going to be sh!tty regardless of the reason. Since you've regaled your tales aplenty of time, I think I'd like to add mine that comes from the opposing spectrum as well. For once I was accused for being 'mentally ill' when I tried to correct a misinformation & after this offender learned during the same run of DRN that I've cleared all ShB relics at Augmented Order phase when it was the current patch. Suffice to say, that amuses me and earns them an insta-report.

That being said, GMs do respond.... just not in a priority that people probably would expect. lol