SE: Please tone it down a hair

[HiirNoivl]

Because, I choose not to get into such a debacle! All you guys are doing is throwing around your weight.. and its something I'm not going to through myself into.. however I will state how the community is doing in this thread or any thread for that matter, that seems to be getting out of control!

lol did you just call me fat?

It's not getting out of control but the opinions nicely voiced by people who want a change are getting shouted down by fans who want us to believe that the problem exists in our own heads even though it's clear we are avid readers and FF fans.

[Ryuko]

FF's used to have very 'simplified', easy to understand language. Starting with FF12, I noticed a HUGE 'elevation' in language. I was surprised by the amount of huge words the NPC's were suddenly using compared to FF's of the past. I believe it may have something to do with their 'target audience'. Many of us that 'grew up' with FF are now old enough to fully comprehend the complex language.

Or, an alternative... they hired different writers.. or, different translators? :O

Sidenote: I notice a LOT of puns in the 'English' version of the game. "In for Garuda Awakening" ('rude awakening') is one example. How do these translate into other languages? Do they change it to a phrase that makes sense?

[Starlord]

lol did you just call me fat?

It's not getting out of control but the opinions nicely voiced by people who want a change are getting shouted down by fans who want us to believe that the problem exists in our own heads even though it's clear we are avid readers and FF fans.

Hey! I feel Fat! So that makes it even! :P.

All I'm saying is state opinion, that's cool, but don't pull them off as facts like some people were doing.. and I wouldn't be even posting in this thread lol, that is all I'm saying .

[HiirNoivl]

Hey! I feel Fat! So that makes it even! :P.

All I'm saying is state opinion, that's cool, but don't pull them off as facts
like some people were doing.. and I wouldn't be even posting in this thread lol, that is all I'm saying .

Off topic but ok :P Clearing up the main series quest would be an improvement. Plain and simple. The Main series quest is nebulous. It's not until the the GC quests that there is a clear objective and a clear enemy.

I'll go ahead and say it: The Main Series quests seriously heck the bed.

[Starlord]

Off topic but ok :P Clearing up the main series quest would be an improvement. Plain and simple. The Main series quest is nebulous. It's not until the the GC quests that there is a clear objective and a clear enemy.

I'll go ahead and say it: The Main Series quests seriously heck the bed.

Well. of course, I agree the Main story quests was a bit eh.. but the GC missions under Yoshi-P's Order, is awesome in my book =).

[HiirNoivl]

Well. of course, I agree the Main story quests was a bit eh.. but the GC missions under Yoshi-P's Order, is awesome in my book =).

Most of Yoshi's Quests are very well done. In fact I wish I had more of them.

[Starlord]

Most of Yoshi's Quests are very well done. In fact I wish I had more of them.

In which gets me even more excited for 2.0! Like seriously! <3

[Rydin]

Hahaha... I think you guys aren't seeing my point...
Starlord and I actually share in our love of the game and story quite often on the forum...

I think the underlying story is incredible... and the characters are well thought out, and well placed....

Gaius van Baelsar, enigmatically deep, wants to conquer Eorzea, not destroy it... He is indeed the "Leo" to Darnus' "Kefka"

And Nael van Darnus... A villain truly worthy of the series if I've ever seen one... Kefka, Sephiroth, Gabranth and Grahf (OK, maybe Gaius looks more like Grahf) all rolled into one...

Thancred... who might just be the ladies man we all wanted Edgar, Irvine and Balthier to be

One departure form the previous games (Which I love) is the mystery behind the empire...
In most of the other games... you are immediately shoved right into the underbelly of the oppressive regime from which you rebel (Narshe, Midgar, Galbadia).... But in this game you don't see the empire.. You have no idea what they're planning. You haven't seen their cities OR what they are truly capable of... It builds a tension, like chasing Sephiroth across an ocean, not knowing what to expect on the other side.

If this were an offline game... I just know you'd be running with the Circle of knowing... It's awesome... This story could rival ANY of the offline titles.. IF the dialogue succeeds at pulling people in...
The world is frikkin ending and everyone is speaking in poems and riddles....

I want to see Urianger as the bumbling bookworm who lost his diary... pages scattering in the wind....

I want to bask in the aged wisdom and leadership of Louisoix

Feel the seething venom flow from the words of Darnus... make me hate him SE.... it wont even take much... I promise...

Show me the defiant spirit of Merlwyb, Let me see how being the only female Roegadyn conflicts with her lesbian lifestyle...

[HiirNoivl]

I disagree that Gabranth was a villain. And I don't think we've seen enough of Nael to rank him anywhere yet. Maybe when he stops raving non-sense and gets to action I'll start respecting him any more. "Baelsar" (thanks for the reminder) I find more interesting because he'd rather shoot guns than words.

There's a lot we don't know, and that's good, like you said it builds tension.

But I still have a gripe with some of the writing. But I don't want the story to change.

At least, when the writing is simpler, then, people will quit /poking me when I'm trying to read and play "find the message".

[Rydin]

I disagree that Gabranth was a villain. And I don't think we've seen enough of Nael to rank him anywhere yet. Maybe when he stops raving non-sense and gets to action I'll start respecting him any more. "Baelsar" (thanks for the reminder) I find more interesting because he'd rather shoot guns than words.

I see what you're saying... but if you are going to make that leap about Gabranth, then you might as well say Darth Vader wasn't a villain for the same reason.... Also FFXII needed Gabranth...
Who else were we to fear? Vayne? Cid? Venat, the overrated Bogey? hehe

Of course we have to see how it all plays out to weigh in on Darnus... but he has so much evil potential....
With Sephiroth, we got to see him go crazy.... but Darnus is like Kefka in the sense that he is already stark raving mad

One thing I did love about the sephiroth story is as much as he was THE villain. through much of the story he is built up as a hero, admired even, by the main character

I do like the Baelsar/Darnus dynamic though... Light and dark antagonists (Where the dark one teases our sensibilities by wearing the white gear), and the light one is still a bad guy overall....

It has depth... and I understand what Eagle and Star are saying... they don't want the dialogue to be dumbed down so much that it betrays the true depth of the story...

But here is my thing... why is EVERYONE so verbose... In a world as diverse as Eorzea, there has to be someone that shoots from the hip and gets to the damn point... right?