Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

[CCheshire]

I think it's less so entitlement and more so just being bummed that such cosmetics seem beyond them. Speaking as a casual player who doesn't do high-end content, there is a reason I don't. And it's not because the content itself is too hard. It's because of how intimidating the preparations are.

You need to have the best current gear, preferably overmelded with the best and CORRECT materia. Perfect stats. Best high-end raid-tier food. Etc.

When a person who wants to attempt savage sees all of these things they have to do, they will have one of two reactions.

1.) All right, this is fine.

2.) *petrified with anxiety*

Number 2 happens a lot because no one wants to be the one who accidentally melded the wrong materia, didn't overmeld at all because they couldn't afford it, or ate the wrong food. Because then you wind up feeling like you are dragging the party down because you didn't go into it with 100% perfect everything.

And maybe raiders will say, "You don't NEED to be 100% perfect to clear" but that is absolutely the perception from casual players like me who watch raiders spend millions of gil overmelding and getting their hands on the absolute best of everything.

TL DR High-end content feels extremely intimidating and insurmountable for most casual players due to the perceived expectations placed on them. Therefore, they get sad that they are missing out on cosmetics that they feel like they cannot and will not ever get.

What? If you meld the wrong materia you can just remove it, which might break most materia, but it is cheaper than gear. Unless you're doing week 1 Savage raiding I don't see anyone with penta gear sets for any extreme farms, which I started a few weeks ago. Also, for raid food, you can just look it up on Icy-Veins site, which holds all the BiS gear guides too.

I've def caused wipes during my fresh prog in Extremes but no one said anything or were rude to me like PF is truly random ppl who you will never meet again unless you're being toxic to be blacklisted. Also, if the party is not working out, you can just say bye and join another listing or host your own PF.

If raiding itself is completely off the table, the hairstyle is 29m on aether DC too, along with the mount.

[Kandraxx]

Problem for most is not that the content is difficult, but that it’s pseudo difficulty by forcing it to be a multiplayer choreography despite the game not having any real cooperative mechanics and that finding 7 other people you can somehow tolerate in a sea of unemployed antisocials and mental illness is simply not worth the time of your life.

[localareanetwork]

GIVE US THE HAIR NOW WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT IN ANY EFFORT INTO ANYTHING

[AllenThyl]

Agree with that, but there is also the elephant in the room of why a highly-desirable cosmetic item was locked behind savage-level content, particularly when it had absolutely no thematic link to that content.

Because this is a computer game that requires an active subscription, the goal of the company making this product is to get people to spend their time (and therefore money) with this game. It's very much the entertainment value, of doing some game activity, and then getting a reward for it.

It seems probable this was another failed attempt by SE to funnel non-raiders into content they do not like.

No one is forced to do anything, stop sounding like some crazy conspiracy theorist. This is an entertainment product made by a privately owned business, not some government agency which the population is forced to engage with.

By all means, if you or anyone else finds someone demanding savage rewards without doing savage, point me in their direction and I'll laugh at them with you because that's just silly.

Sure thing, here you go:

If it were up to me, fancy glowy weapons and gear would be the only things locked behind savage, tbh.

This whole "but customization shouldn't be locked behind anything" tirade isn't an argument, it's merely your opinion. You simply drew an arbitrary line around certain kinds of items, according to your personal taste.

[Mawlzy]

No one is forced to do anything, stop sounding like some crazy conspiracy theorist. This is an entertainment product made by a privately owned business, not some government agency which the population is forced to engage with.

Allen, please calm down. I never claimed anyone was being forced to do anything.

Does it not seem probable to you that placing attractive (and expensive!) rewards behind CAR was SE encouraging people to engage with the content? And given raiders are going to do raids anyway for some reason, a cosmetic item was included to appeal specifically to non-raiders?

[SalamanderIX]

We need these things for an economy. Because some players are unwilling to work for it, that makes it worth gil.
If they want it, they should make gil to get it. If they don't want to do even that...? Then there's no point to having a videogame and they would be better served unsubbing and playing with a model viewer.

[Atma]

Truth be told I thought they learned this lesson with the hairstyle that was locked behind Delubrum Reginae, and that's why they added the capability to purchase it later on for coins.

After doing that instance 72 times to get the hairstyle, yeah I'm kinda done with THAT noise. It's fine making things take some time to get, but the reasons and method are both wrong.

[Voryn]

It would have been better it if wasn’t as rare. On paper the idea of something you either get from the content or from the marketboard seems fine, like Bozja hairstyles. I don’t want to do Bozja but can can buy them. Same with treasure map glams.

But this hairstyle was too hard to get. The chance of any given Party Finder group actually clearing the fight felt a lot less likely than an Extreme or a first floor Savage raid. And then the drop itself was really rare, and also cost a large amount of demimateria if someone wanted to trade then for it. The grind for it was awful, and then the prices on the marketboard were also awful. The situation sucked all around.

[ConantSivrha]

This whole "but customization shouldn't be locked behind anything" tirade isn't an argument, it's merely your opinion. You simply drew an arbitrary line around certain kinds of items, according to your personal taste.

"That's just your opinion" is the argument you make when you've scraped the bottom of the barrel so hard that you've hit bedrock. How a video game should or shouldn't work, from a player's perspective, is purely subjective. Your opinions are also just opinions.

[Miohazuki]

The issue isn't entitlement. It's more acknowledging a contributing factor of the issue on threads such as you yourself have made.

SE > Adds cosmetic item to game, locked behind savage.

Some raiders > It's not so much fun, why are there so many damn casuals that can barely handle AoEs in my savage parties?!?

Someone acknowledging the issue > This is what happens when you put cosmetic items behind savage. It will attract casual players into high-end content, that will suddenly want to do it for the reward, even if they aren't prepared.

Someone not actually reading the comments > CASUALS ARE SO ENTITLED THEY WANT THE REWARD FOR NO EFFORT.

There's several issues going on here, and not really correlated to entitlement. Most of the casuals that want this cosmetic are already trying to do the content. If people are proposing ideas then it is only to combat SEs fairly bad design.

Can be bought on market board .so it's basically a lazy argument on casual players