Ban premades from frontline, fix all issues

[TofuLove]

Its not hardcore if we are sick of gettin literally murdered by just few premades. Premade should not work with rouletts, even if that means i cant play with FC mates or my wife...

Everyone plays the game, everyone gets rewarded - this is the current system. Achievements are the only outlier, but they almost don't matter because of how few of them are there and how relatively easy they are to get - just play more. Frontline is a super casual mode that rewards breathing. Just because you got stomped, doesn't mean you didn't get rewarded. Somebody needs to win in order for the game to end - and I don't know how much solo gameplay would solve "getting literally murdered" without getting into reviewing the mechanics of getting murdered - AOE, CC skill stacking etc. It might happen less, but it will still happen.

IMHO - ANY barrier of entry into frontline will damage how much it pops. And asking for a mode to be only solo, or only premades is a barrier of entry.
If you want premades & good players to be split up and balanced between the teams - why not go one step further and recognise that you are pushing for balanced games with good players on all sides? Is that what you want? This is fine, but... will these players want to play at all?

My bias - I don't know how much casual roulette players care about winning or even know how to play. At the moment the worst performers don't at all. So I think that by banning premades will put a lot of players off: casuals and regular players, and I think the games would quickly become worse. Because let's face it - premades want to win, they don't want to play with people who don't know how to. I think the only counter to that would be to push for a truly hardcore solo mode that would incentivise winning and have good matchmaking. You might even get "balanced" premade free games, where lethargic players would get kicked and games would be good. Nirvana reached.

You will still get literally murdered if you are bad though, but that's just pvp.

[AmiableApkallu]

Emphasis/bolding mine:

Because let's face it - premades want to win, they don't want to play with people who don't know how to.

I've been in Frontline matches with an obvious pre-made, and instead of making an effort to teach everyone else "some basic competency," all that pre-made did was fill up the chat log with useless macro spam faster than anyone could actually type while still playing the game, and thus taught nothing to anyone who wasn't already in their pre-made or Discord or whatever.

This stands in stark contrast to being the random PF fill or two for some FC or static prog'ing a fight, where someone in the FC/static has the courtesy to summarize what's being said in the Discord that you haven't been invited to.