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  1. #51
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    Fiosha_Maureiba's Avatar
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    I think if we were in the groove long enough, the dialogue would sit better with us.

    Since we're not reading a book heavy in the language, but playing a game where we may get snippets of dialogue here and there, between our own personal goals, chatting with other players, reading social networking and forums, and being at works. But if we were reading a 600 page book laden with the lingo, we would eventually get into it.

    Lies! I recorded over 300 vocabulary words in the Black Chronicles I couldn't understand, looked up, and never saw them reused in the books and I don't think I could recognize them now. And you realize at some point, you're just gonna have to miss the details of some scenes as the story progresses if you want to enjoy the story.


    It's hard to read when there's this pressure that you're holding up other players (and reading on the go usually doesn't work out).

    "Uplander backwalks from den of horsebirds. Horsebird busydeal is wideheart and remembering. Ear-catch selfsounds of jinglyshine now. Now get the F outta my face."
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 04-29-2012 at 01:01 AM.

  2. #52
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    I don't see a problem here, nobody forces you to read anything. Just spam enter key, and if that doesn't help press escape key twice and then select "Yes" to skip CS, works every time for me!~ Well thats at least my approach to this issue Thats what i do and recommend every lazy person who is not interested to read to do
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  3. #53
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    I miss back in the 90s when RPGs came with warnings "The ability to read is required to properly enjoy this game".

    Perhaps this game should come with it too. People always in a hurry and expect things to be as basic as possible.

    I for one enjoy the multitude of dialects and "fancy talk" in this game, and I have no problem reading it.
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  4. #54
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    I was wondering how long it would take for people to struggle with the diction choices in FFXIV. Frankly, it's an interesting decision on their part because it does ostracize people a bit. I've been studying for the GRE and many of the words I had never heard before appear in FFXIV on a regular basis. It's pretty neat, and I hope they continue their writing style because it's a niche that isn't common in the genre.

    BTW, I have to look up FFXIV words sometimes, and then I add them to my GRE list.

    If you want 5th grade reading level, you can always go play TERA.

    When I talk about the game to others I talk about how the quest and NPC dialogue is really well done.

    If I did have to pick one choice to scale back on...

    When five or so high level difficulty words are interspersed with five Eorzean terminologies [mainly the distant lands or people that don't exist in the game] I can get really confused. I know I was reading an NPC's dialogue in Limsa, and they mentioned shipping partners and I got really lost because of all the different Eorzean terminology.
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    Last edited by Platinumstorm; 04-29-2012 at 02:01 AM.

  5. #55
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    It's not about HOW it is written though it's about HOW MUCH. Make the difference.
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  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    It's not about HOW it is written though it's about HOW MUCH. Make the difference.
    Yep. Difference is those who like and want to read versus those who dislike reading/can't actually read. Since even if its voice acted people won't sit through all of it unless it's full of action.

    Gotta face facts, sometimes something just simply isn't for everyone.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    HOW MUCH.
    Have you ever read Shakespeare?

    There are reasons Shakespeare remains one of the most popular and enjoyed play-writes in history. Oh yeah, and there's pages upon pages of the same difficult English. But yet, people continue to enjoy it. A surprise! Those people must enjoy reading and/or stories and/or dramatic performances. Much like what the dialogue is aimed at in this game. People who enjoy reading and/or stories and/or dramatic performances. If you as a player do not fit into having the amount of patience required to read, then you may simply skip the stories and do well not to complain.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    well, i think the idea in ffxi was that all (or most) of race X came from city/region Y, so no matter where you encountered them their speech patterns were the same, as they were basically just traveling away from home. it was more consistent, but also a bit homogenized. i think it was just their way of reinforcing the idea of nationalism, since the 3 nations did compete for top honors.

    in ffxiv it seems they're taking a more 'realistic' approach, where people from city/region Y predominantly speak in the manner appropriated to that place, regardless of race. all the races are spread out everywhere and nationalism can still be found, but it has more to do with your grand company than it does with race origins. ul'dah NPCs tend to be more frank and streetwise, gridanians more eloquent and thoughtful, and limsans talk like pirates- regardless of race. i think this speaks more to how a person who has been in a region for a long enough time will start to pick up the dialect, even if they (or their ancestors) originated from elsewhere.

    just my 2 cents. but either way, i'm fine with it. it doesn't even bother me that louisoix talks so damned much. it just sucks that you have to suffer through the same long-winded speech every. single. time. you complete one of the repeatable primal quests. okay, first time is fine. i'm happy to read. but when i'm repeating the quest, don't make me mash enter. it just makes you care less about the dialogue, and that's counterproductive.

    as far as my sig, lol. it's making fun of Skrillex.
    Yeah I'd considered that angle as well. I still see a lot of inconsistency in it, though. I don't remember which they were as I've spoken to many, but I'll see NPCs in LL, for example, that seem to be from there, but yet talk like they're from Gridania. That's what I mean by consistency.

    As for the Skrillex thing. Never heard of him before, so I had to look him up. He kinda looks like Corey Feldman.
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    Now I've heard everything.

    Let's start whining about footsteps now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yep. Difference is those who like and want to read versus those who dislike reading/can't actually read. Since even if its voice acted people won't sit through all of it unless it's full of action.

    Gotta face facts, sometimes something just simply isn't for everyone.
    Nope not even close.
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