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  1. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerfsmn View Post
    Here is the problem, also, you are just full of s*** lol you probably are one of them :P

    " mystical addons btw " google mmo minion
    Homie really out here trying to troll the strangest topic.
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  2. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerfsmn View Post
    Here is the problem, also, you are just full of s*** lol you probably are one of them :P

    " mystical addons btw " google mmo minion
    What is this attack without justification?
    You just heard a point of view, and because it was in counter to your belief, you dismiss and ridicule without evidence?
    I was just giving a point of reference with my info. So it wouldnt be dismissed as someone who isnt around and doesnt see.
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarence View Post
    (Aether Frontline 5000 games)
    I have yet to see a premade so overwhelming they cant be beat in any of their games.
    Just people on opposing teams not adapting their strategies or play style to counter.
    Nor these mystical add-ons. I have seen ONE instance where a player moved unusually quickly.
    Again, this is another "true in principle."

    70%+ win-rates suggest it's only spawn RNG that prevents semi-static premades from being virtually invincible in practice.

    Is this a result of the low-skill play in FL? For the most part, yes. But we can't just wish away that significant sub-population of players that either won't or can't play the mode competently.
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  4. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I thinks most of good Aether Frontline players are playing on Primal right now.
    Probably true. We're left with the padding premades, unfortunately. It's quite spectacular how a team can completely dominate K/A/Dmg and yet lose because they are only interested in their own numbers.
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  5. #295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Probably true. We're left with the padding premades, unfortunately. It's quite spectacular how a team can completely dominate K/A/Dmg and yet lose because they are only interested in their own numbers.
    Nah, i think it is more of Aether's unique problem because your datacenter is infamous of occupied by the players forPvE and role playing
    These people are the problem of Aether escalate into situation where good veterans either band together or play on other datacenter
    Primal on other hand is more balanced and Fronline is much healthier than Aether
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  6. #296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Nah, i think it is more of Aether's unique problem because your datacenter is infamous of occupied by the players forPvE and role playing
    These people are the problem of Aether escalate into situation where good veterans either band together or play on other datacenter
    Primal on other hand is more balanced and Fronline is much healthier than Aether
    Not my experience at all. I guess Primal benefits from PvPrimal, but to me that's a double-edged sword.

    My suggestion padding premades are currently dominating Aether is based on my observation the good shot-callers are all absent, whereas well-known padders are not.
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Not my experience at all. I guess Primal benefits from PvPrimal, but to me that's a double-edged sword.
    My suggestion padding premades are currently dominating Aether is based on my observation the good shot-callers are all absent, whereas well-known padders are not.
    It is just a 4 men premade at best and it can not be the source of all problem.
    I just did a Frontline and I already aware I am fighting against a premade of 3 and we still won.
    Frontline meta already changed
    With new BH and role action, you just need a good shot caller and someone doing marking
    Old DRK triangle no longer works when every tank can do 30 yards knockback (you can chain knockback too) and DNC usually got took out if they foolish thinks they still can dance like last patch
    Right now Frontline is more about who can coordinate focus fire
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is just a 4 men premade at best and it can not be the source of all problem.
    I just did a Frontline and I already aware I am fighting against a premade of 3 and we still won.
    Frontline meta already changed
    With new BH and role action, you just need a good shot caller and someone doing marking
    Old DRK triangle no longer works when every tank can do 30 yards knockback (you can chain knockback too) and DNC usually got took out if they foolish thinks they still can dance like last patch
    Right now Frontline is more about who can coordinate focus fire
    Right, last time.

    At present, Aether is deficient in good shot-callers, and replete with selfish padding premades.

    I understand a good shot-caller and people marking is the path to victory. We don't have that currently. This has always been the winning recipe. I don't see how the change in BH and addition of role actions has really altered the situation. If anything it has reversed some of the meta shift that occurred in the wake of 7.1.
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  9. #299
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    bump @ square enix
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  10. #300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Right, last time.

    At present, Aether is deficient in good shot-callers, and replete with selfish padding premades.
    Not gonna lie, I think basically every data center is about the same atm. Lot of shot callers stop early with how much negative reception they get, and feels bad to get a caution or strike when you’re trying to help.

    Most of them would rather just group up and Vc where they won’t get flamed as hard.
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