Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[Mawlzy]

I mean, if we did what we usually did, I’d expect my alts to have higher WRs than my main cause they don’t have those first 2,000 games where I didn’t care about what was happening.

Thanks to great back end code my alts are probably burned anyways, so they’re a bit pointless now anyways.

Probably makes sense to do it per season anyway, but yeah in your case your win-rate is being "dragged down" by early days lol.

Incidentally, I mostly play on an alt now because I got a little tired of my fan club focusing me plus some nasty comments. Turns out my win-rate on the alt is lower. May not be statistically significant, but might suggest vendettas detract from the prime directive of helping the team win.

[Kaurhz]

I wouldn't ban premade,

But I would scale down to 8v8v8 (and add more damage falloff), 24v24v24 is pretty miserable to play.... I can see the attractiveness in it, e.g., spatial awareness actually mattering, but there are things with 24v24v24 that are broken (Even if you find the coordination aspect fun) -- I don't think being semi-coordinated should justify the outcomes of it, e.g., a 4-man party is able to comfortably trump 16 people (and it isn't like it is an advanced strategy, it's just picking a broken combination, and then stomping on everything) , and much of this is just due to the fact they don't really balance around Frontline in the first place, or in any capacity for that matter.

Given what Frontline is, it just generally doesn't really work well, even if you do find it satisfying... It will just eventually get to the same tired result, where it isn't necessarily about pure strategic play, but just pure group stomping... Have been on the receiving end, and I have been on the dealing end, and frankly neither are fun, since it just results in it feeling o-so-Samey, and it isn't like a great deal of strategic play is involved anyway with the methods being used.

[Divinemights]

I also want to see 8v8v8 make a come back, but I also know current maps are simply too big for that size
Original Secure and Shatter works but certainly not Secure 3.0 and Shatter 2.0 and Onsal Hakir was never made for 24 men

[OliviaLugria]

Probably makes sense to do it per season anyway, but yeah in your case your win-rate is being "dragged down" by early days lol.

Incidentally, I mostly play on an alt now because I got a little tired of my fan club focusing me plus some nasty comments. Turns out my win-rate on the alt is lower. May not be statistically significant, but might suggest vendettas detract from the prime directive of helping the team win.

In my experience, getting targeted just means if your team is good enough they play through it, or they’ll do just whatever and collapse the moment you go down… sorry you’re getting hit though.

[Mawlzy]

In my experience, getting targeted just means if your team is good enough they play through it, or they’ll do just whatever and collapse the moment you go down… sorry you’re getting hit though.

Oh, ty. Doesn't really bother me. I came here with a bunch of friends from EVE Online and disputes there are resolved through ambush, espionage, economic sabotage, and blowing an enemy's space station into oblivion. Getting bonked on the noggin and respawning ain't no thang.

[Divinemights]

24 man definitely needs to come back. Just like the premades be exploiting randoms currently, I can exploit them in the smaller map should I be bothered to put in the work for it. I'm not putting that much energy into it now simply because they have too many bodies to farm. That's too much work I have to put in as a soloist in order to keep up. It doesn't help that they now have elixirs to fall back on and that they have gotten a 2nd battle high buff, but it is what it is.

It doesn't matter what type of premade you have. Premades are premades, and all premades at least have some sort of advantage that a soloist doesn't have. That being said, the true problem is that no one wants to adapt. No one wants to change strategies which is why combative premades are constantly snowballing out of control and why we're constantly seeing rule changes as a whole, rule changes that's probably not needed if everyone just adapted in the first place.

Maybe I might start truly learning the game again if they at least took out the elixirs. Until then, I'm reliant on multiple people to get me through, and if all I have are farmers when the groups show up, then I'm just at the mercy of the premades and there's really not much I can do about it whether I take part in the feeding process or sit back and watch them build a battle high faster than I can generate on my own. I mean, you can ban premades if you like. It'll change the problem of being farmed at a high rate. It'll change the problem of blowout games occurring. It'll change the problem of not making your own decisions. It's just not going to change the problem of no one wanting to adapt.

If you want to put in skill based matchmaking, go for it. I don't think it's going to do nothing for your premade problem though. The system is design to balance based off of solo stats, not team stats.

I believed you are confused about legacy of 24 men Frontline.
The 24 men Frontline works simply because only veterans will que for Secure 1.0/Secure 2.0 because this mode offers no incentive for PvE EXP farmers
Most PvE farmers will click roulette and often ends up in Shatter
This result Secure becomes a mode free of leechers and dedicated mode for veterans
As all 24 veterans knows how to PvP and understand how Frontline works, it becomes a feast for people to clash with their skills
Unless they bring back Shatter 2.0 and Secure 2.0, 24 men simply won't works because of current map size, all 3 maps do not have 24 men in mind on the drawing board (except Seize)
Also, with how current system only allows one mode to be active, you will still get pve farmers and leechers at size of 24 men

[nerfsmn]

fully agree, its gotta go, not to forget that most of these premades people are using special add-ons if you catch my drift :P

[Avarence]

(Aether Frontline 5000 games)
I have yet to see a premade so overwhelming they cant be beat in any of their games.
Just people on opposing teams not adapting their strategies or play style to counter.
Nor these mystical add-ons. I have seen ONE instance where a player moved unusually quickly.

[nerfsmn]

(Aether Frontline)

Here is the problem, also, you are just full of s*** lol you probably are one of them :P

" mystical addons btw " google mmo minion

[Divinemights]

(Aether Frontline 5000 games)
I have yet to see a premade so overwhelming they cant be beat in any of their games.
Just people on opposing teams not adapting their strategies or play style to counter.
Nor these mystical add-ons. I have seen ONE instance where a player moved unusually quickly.

I thinks most of good Aether Frontline players are playing on Primal right now.