Please reduce tank healing power by a lot

[PercibelTheren]

If you wipe, then the party die to the same thing again then it's going to be faster for the tank to just finish the boss themselves instead of risk wiping again and wasting more time, but that rarely happens, and if it's sub 20% then it's faster typically for the tank to solo the boss than resetting and going again as sometimes the boss hits for so little it takes to long to actually reset.

And well just don't die then the tank "hold you hostage". It will boil down to difference of playstyle argument.

How often does this actually happen? Most people learn after one, maybe two wipes. At least enough to survive with a couple vuln stacks. If you keep wiping over and over, it's time to disband.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

How often does this actually happen? Most people learn after one, maybe two wipes. At least enough to survive with a couple vuln stacks. If you keep wiping over and over, it's time to disband.

I already said more or less infrequently, but playing as long as I have, you see some questionable things, although beginning of the expac I found people struggle to come to terms with the slightly more difficult fight designs.

Why would I disband a dungeon run... I'll just finish it off by myself and collect my tomes on my way out lol

[Yeonhee]

How often does this actually happen? Most people learn after one, maybe two wipes. At least enough to survive with a couple vuln stacks. If you keep wiping over and over, it's time to disband.

Not so long ago, I had a group with which we wiped 4 times on Alexandria's first boss before I decided to solo it on the 5th attempt. Fortunately tho, it's indeed pretty rare.

[Qyoon]

Why would I disband a dungeon run... I'll just finish it off by myself and collect my tomes on my way out lol

Because you are playing an online multiplayer game, the point is to to finish it with people.
The fact someone can clear a task alone when it's supposed to be done with multiple players proves something is wrong with the class.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Because you are playing an online multiplayer game, the point is to to finish it with people.
The fact someone can clear a task alone when it's supposed to be done with multiple players proves something is wrong with the class.

I mean then maybe said people shouldn't fail basic level mechanics and use eyes? If you are in the last boss already wasted 20+ minutes are you seriously gonna disband, or just just finish the boss and get on with the day instead of queuing up and running the dungeon all over again? I'll finish the dungeon off thank you very much.

[flowerfairy]

I hope every player in XIV experiences having to watch a tank stay alive solo for 20+ minutes in a fight, because I'm positive the general consensus will be "this is dumb."

[Qyoon]

I mean then maybe said people shouldn't fail basic level mechanics and use eyes? If you are in the last boss already wasted 20+ minutes are you seriously gonna disband, or just just finish the boss and get on with the day instead of queuing up and running the dungeon all over again? I'll finish the dungeon off thank you very much.

I mean maybe some people shouldn't have in their kit the tools to, reduce incoming damage, heal themselve and deal enought damage to kill a boss on their own.

You are basicaly complaining about other player skill level while playing a job that is litteraly being babysit by SQE to the point almost everybody agree it's overpowered.

[Supersnow845]

Yeah whether you are confident in your own skills to stay alive it doesn’t mean a role should be so overpowered it basically feels like it’s being babied by square enix

[Valence]

Imagine complaining about other players doing mistakes while playing a role that's mistake immune.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

I hope every player in XIV experiences having to watch a tank stay alive solo for 20+ minutes in a fight, because I'm positive the general consensus will be "this is dumb."

Maybe, learn to read?
I said if on a 20+ minute dungeon and the party is constantly wiping to the last boss. I'm not constantly killing myself to cater to someone(s) not putting in the effort to improve. I'm going to finish the last boss and get my tomes.

Imagine complaining about other players doing mistakes while playing a role that's mistake immune.

Imagine complaining about toolkits that is balanced around high end content, not the lowest denominator of content, recent job change reasons reflect this is the position the devs hold when it comes to job balance.

I can assure you the self healing in Savage and ultimate on content far less impactful than in dungeons