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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Fandaniel (Hermes / Amon) actually got something of a negative reception, at least on this forum (where I engage in most discussions about this game). I like him, and I'm sure other people do, but that's on account of my understanding his depression and feelings of "otherness" because of it (I have a personality disorder); dedicated fans of the Ancients did not like him for exposing flaws in their supposedly utopian civilization.
    Yeah, there's your problem: this forum is a deeply unrepresentative corner of the game's community, to the point where it's a laughing stock in other places. It's sort of an internet-wide thing; 'the official forums for a thing' have been generally considered to be one of the worst places to discuss said thing since... I want to say the early 2010s? Right around when Reddit and Discord really got rolling, and made community-run spaces a lot easier to find and maintain.

    In fact, Endwalker made these forums' difference form the central community abundantly clear, and Fandaniel was one of the clearest ways to see it: he was really popular overall, to the point where the developers actually got surprised--paraphrasing an interview here, they were going for 'complicated but people will like him more than don't', but were shooting for a 60/40 split; they feel like the result was somewhere around 80/20. He did well in community polls I can find from the time, too; he was always the least popular Ancient, but that's mostly because Emet, Hyth, and Venat (who is the absolute clearest example of what I'm talking about) were overwhelmingly dominant. Hermes, meanwhile, was instead beating Alphinaud and Urianger; far from a slouch.

    In that case I'd broadly put that down to the fact that most 'dedicated fans of the Ancients' aren't actually the sorts of fans that you've seen here, that were moralizing about it and claiming objective goods and evils far from what the game put forward; that's actually a vast minority of that community. Most Ancient fans just see them as people in a story they like; in their case, a grand tragedy. Hermes and Venat aren't hated for destroying paradise; they're beloved for being very big parts of that story, being tragic figures in their own right.
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