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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They have ripped out haste from every class that has ever been able to generate haste (AND YOU HAVE PRAISED THOSE JOB CHANGES)

    Why would you ever think they would bring back haste. By your own logic removed haste was the majority opinion
    By their logical they are always majority opinion so anything they say is right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    They have ripped out haste from every class that has ever been able to generate haste (AND YOU HAVE PRAISED THOSE JOB CHANGES)

    Why would you ever think they would bring back haste. By your own logic removed haste was the majority opinion
    I doubt you can point out a post of mine that praises removal of haste.

    Whole point of my chronomancer idea too is for it to appeal to the minority that cares about weird gameplay like pre-7.2 BLM players and pre-rework SMN players. Not many would play it and it would likely never fit into the meta outside of statics, so it's fine for hastaga to exist. It's a very iconic FF spell too and it's crazy that it doesn't exist in the game.

    But honestly, I've never once said haste was a bad thing so that's kinda weird mate. I'm starting to think you made up that you're a doctor too.
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    Haste was an important part of old AST and old SCH. You have directly supported the simplification of those two jobs

    Are you really gonna tell me you supported those being simplified but you would have preferred they retain the haste effects, yeah I’m sure

    Also why would you even imply I’m lying about my career, like that’s just pointlessly vindictive for absolutely no reason. You don’t have to like me but why stoop to that level. It’s just pointlessly rude
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 04-01-2025 at 01:35 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Haste was an important part of old AST and old SCH. You have directly supported the simplification of those two jobs

    Are you really gonna tell me you supported those being simplified but you would have preferred they retain the haste effects, yeah I’m sure

    Also why would you even imply I’m lying about my career, like that’s just pointlessly vindictive for absolutely no reason. You don’t have to like me but why stoop to that level. It’s just pointlessly rude
    When did I ever say SCH should be simplified? Or AST? I don't think it's good to get in a habit of making stuff up. Nor did I ever specifically criticize haste, very weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    When did I ever say SCH should be simplified? Or AST? I don't think it's good to get in a habit of making stuff up. Nor did I ever specifically criticize haste, very weird.
    Do you want me to link you the 5000 posts you’ve made saying that the vast majority of the playerbase hates DOT’s or the 20 posts you made saying that the playerbase hates Pets from the WOW discussion a little while ago or the support for the healer kits being simplified as they distinguish based on heals (spoiler alert fey wind was a damage CD not a healing CD as was arrow) or just the general opinion you have that any job getting easier is good as you have directly praised BLM’s changes, DRG’s changes and the movement of the net encounter design towards simplicity

    Like please tell me what in your repertoire of general opinions would lead ANYONE to believe you are wouldn’t have supported the ShB healer changes had they been released today given you have espoused your dislike for everything old SCH was
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Wow, I didn't realize they would never add a new job. You're like "ME ME ME NOW NOW NOW MAKE MY IDEAL NICHE JOB FANTASY RIGHT NOW OR I UNSUB".

    With your attitude I honestly hope they never give you what you want and just continue to pander to the majority hahaha.
    Someone asked "what job currently in the game has the engagement that BLM had before" and you said "the one that doesn't exist". Are you just stupid or something?
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    This is by far the most intelligent criticism of Black Mage I've read and I want more discussions like this please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaraShiro6 View Post
    This is by far the most intelligent criticism of Black Mage I've read and I want more discussions like this please!
    This is referring the OG poster btw not the rest of the replies, the replies are hurting my head
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  9. #19
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    To counter this, having time between your casts is a huge thing in content that is not raids, especially when you got the aggro.
    In the extreme example of soloing deep dungeons, the new blm changes are like godsent. Not only you dont have to switch to ice every time u kill a mob, but also you can do stagger kiting now. Add to it that there is less chance your spell gets interrupted by incoming damage.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    Chronomancer with hastaga raid buff, pretty simple. There are thousands of concepts that would fit the niche just as well. Maybe you should put more effort into creative thinking.
    Me? why should I put effort into creative thinking? I'm just a player of the game, what power do I have?

    Shouldn't you be asking the devs to put more effort into creative thinking?, instead of just gutting all the uniqueness and complexity out of every class to appease players like yourself who want any and all classes to be lobotomized.

    Creative thinking would be idk...fixing healers to make them more engaging than 1 button spam across 4 classes?, and keeping the unique BLM style as it was out of respect for the loyal customers who have been playing the turret style BLM for 12 years, especially considering we have SMN who already has been simplified, and now Picto too.

    Do you want them to butcher RDM next or are we allowed to at least keep that? Are players who wan't more complexity even allowed to have a class we enjoy playing or must everything revolve around the players like you?

    Personally I think we can all share and have different levels of complexity between the classes, but I guess some people just want it all, reminds me how some little kids act when they hog all the toys for themselves and get upset when other kids just want at least 1 toy to play with.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_; 04-01-2025 at 11:01 PM.

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