Black mage changes are probably my breaking point with this game

[Rithy255]

People got over their hate for blizzard after blizzard reformed their public image. Endwalker numbers are never going to happen again. You can't draw trends from stuff like that it's really disingenuous. Plus covid is over.

you tell yourself that. loads of people who joined from covid/wow now those very same people are leaving because they're seeing the flaws with this game.

Though enjoy, only time will tell who's wrong I suppose, but I don't see SE doing any better the way they are carrying on

[HikariKurosawa]

you tell yourself that. loads of people who joined from covid/wow now those very same people are leaving because they're seeing the flaws with this game.

Though enjoy, only time will tell who's wrong I suppose, but I don't see SE doing any better the way they are carrying on

They're leaving because they enjoy real life or WoW more and now have nothing holding them back from real life or WoW. It has nothing to do with the "flaws with this game".

It will be pretty funny when you see black mage become a commonly played job that has healthy levels of engagement in PF after these changes though. It was proven to be a failed concept just by the fact that it only had minority level engagement despite having such a strong and desirable fantasy. Why would anyone take a pre-7.2 BLM over a SMN/RDM/PCT in PF?

[Rithy255]

They're leaving because they enjoy real life or WoW more and now have nothing holding them back from real life or WoW. It has nothing to do with the "flaws with this game".

It will be pretty funny when you see black mage become a commonly played job that has healthy levels of engagement in PF after these changes though. It was proven to be a failed concept just by the fact that it only had minority level engagement despite having such a strong and desirable fantasy. Why would anyone take a pre-7.2 BLM over a SMN/RDM/PCT in PF?

I'm enjoying real life myself, doesn't mean I got ff14 holding me back but it would be cool if I had more to learn and master in this game on my time off when I wanna enjoy myself, people are leaving because flaws with the game, you may not see any flaws your entitled to your opinion, but they for sure see the flaws and frankly it's hard not to see the flaws if you actually enjoyed some of the older designed jobs.

You may not know this but Black mage was actually pretty popular in Endwalker more popular then red mage in raiding, black mage has been a semi popular caster consistently the only reason your seeing less engagement with Black mage is because Pictomancer did everything it could (aka big damage) but better and with added utility.

The answer kind of speaks for itself people didn't wanna pick black mage because it was awfully underpowered you almost always wanted to bring a pictomancer over any other caster, Summoner also went down in play rate you know why? because people follow the meta.

If black mage had a actual place to be good then its pick rate wouldn't be as bad, maybe not as much as pictomancer because its the new fad, but it wasn't a strong viable option, you'll likely see some a few people move over to black mage, but a lot of players will just pick whatever is the best meta like they always have done.

I don't think it's good to appease a small amount of people who somehow found black mage too hard in dungeons or whatever so that the dedicated players to the job essentially lose that playstyle and have nothing else to look forward to.

I guess you'll keep making excuses why numbers show changes like this aren't good for the long run of the game even if the numbers keep getting worse then they already are.

[Aysin]

They're leaving because they enjoy real life or WoW more and now have nothing holding them back from real life or WoW. It has nothing to do with the "flaws with this game".

It will be pretty funny when you see black mage become a commonly played job that has healthy levels of engagement in PF after these changes though. It was proven to be a failed concept just by the fact that it only had minority level engagement despite having such a strong and desirable fantasy. Why would anyone take a pre-7.2 BLM over a SMN/RDM/PCT in PF?

The fact that you said this just tells me you have no idea what you are talking about, SMN/BLM/RDM had approximately the same play rate, PCT had 3 times more play than the next highest - SMN. The answer is quite simple, it was wickedly overpowered. There are also some other contributing factors such as it being a new job, with slightly easier playstyle. Given that viper was the most popular job in all content aside from ultimate. But proven time and time again people will choose what they think is best for the situation and the insane amount of damage is hard to argue with.

Also if you assume people are leaving this game for WoW that proves this game isn't offering something in which WoW does. And that can be both a good and bad thing, but should not be a sole focus.