Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[Stasya]

Premades arent the problem. There are actually strategies to counter different styles of play.
The problem is players not bothering to try/learn, and/or sitting there and taking it for free without adjusting.
If I want to play with a few of my friends, that's ok.

Thank you for explaining some definitely not premade abuser
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type of a person.

It's clearly my own skill issue,not people stacking multiple groups in one team on top of meta classes that also play like rats if drk couldnt pull in a lot of people (they just go back and wait since there is 3rd team running around).

No, the problem is not that we were coordinated, but that the randoms were uncoordinated and easy to bait.

"randoms are uncoordinated" brother in frontlines you play against two teams and you have to do objectives besides just fighting people, which exactly you and other premades use in your advantage (premades of multiple groups dont forget). If your drk friendo fails pull you ALL fall behind not spending limitbreaks and just wait out, because your targets have to fight against not only you but also against other team.

Do you even like to play any game in a fair mode? People bullied you before in football so you aren't going to play it unless it's 10 vs 4 match?

It sounds like we need skill-based matchmaking for premades in Frontlines, then.

Which people abusing matchmaking dont want. They want to grind pve achievements not have a fair game. Imagine all these trolls here go cry about hidden mmr and groups vs groups matchmaking (like in Dota 2). "CANT FARM PVP ACHIEVEMENTS YOSHIP REVERT BACK I DONT LIKE TO PLAY AGAINST 2 DRK SETUPS WITH MY POOR FRIENDS WHO ALSO ABUSE THAT".

[Divinemights]

"I don't speak for everyone."

"Hmm no, I think you're saying you do speak for everyone, which you don't. Meanwhile I do speak for all of Asia and North America. My ego is the normal amount."

Please share more of your wisdom O Great One.

"Premaders are simply politely disagreeing with you" moments after we get comments like this fella
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6683453

You can keep that mindset and continue your little crusade of on where
Premade stays.
Frontline encourages organized team play, and MMO is a social game
Lonewolf is stale for odd balls that seeking for challenge; the thrill seeker.
You are not a lone wolf, you are just someone got hurt by premade

[Stasya]

You can keep that mindset and continue your little crusade of on where
Premade stays.
Frontline encourages organized team play, and MMO is a social game
Lonewolf is stale for odd balls that seeking for challenge; the thrill seeker.
You are not a lone wolf, you are just someone got hurt by premade

Your dumb premades ruin everything stays till small pvp dev team get hands to improve matchmaking for everyone. Go write essay about "u just got hurt, u are not a lone wolf" on 4chan, i think there is literature forum for you.

[Atreus]

"Premaders are simply politely disagreeing with you" moments after we get comments like this fella
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6683453

Oh I'm definitely not trying to be polite. No need to lump me with the ones still trying to have a discussion with you.

[Avarence]

Thank you for explaining some definitely not premade abuser
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type of a person.

It's clearly my own skill issue,not people stacking multiple groups in one team on top of meta classes that also play like rats if drk couldnt pull in a lot of people (they just go back and wait since there is 3rd team running around).

I am sorry that I just joined the forum this patch and that's not good enough for you.

It DOES suck when multiple premades get put on the same alliance. Which is something that could use a balance.
But those players do not decide they get to all be on the same one. The game puts them together.

[Divinemights]

Your dumb premades ruin everything stays till small pvp dev team get hands to improve matchmaking for everyone. Go write essay about "u just got hurt, u are not a lone wolf" on 4chan, i think there is literature forum for you.

LMAO
Just because I don't agree Premade is a problem, you automatically assume I do premade
I do not premade, I solo join Frontline
You can over exaggerate on Premade in your little pocket world.
You don't have any right to ban people's freedom to play together
This is about the principle of people's right to play together
You are defending a guy that literally want to remove any possible mean to have organize Fronline

1. Prevent premade parties from queueing to FL or only match premades with other premades.
2. Prevent players from placing markers on themselves or teammates.
3. Prevent waymarks from being placed within 10 seconds of the most recent waymark placement.
4. Prevent chat sound effects.

You can cry a river in a corner, all you want, you simply do not have right to request a ban.

[Chiyeko]

To frank rather be nice for a solo ques like in cc for FL and a que for people of 4 to be que in if people want to play with friends. Also think battle high should be gone with the amount of way to kill due to some job having a higher chance to kill now and more due to the role action. Also they are not fixing the crowed control problem since melee is broken with smite and swift role action and same with bloodbath.

[Mistress_Irika]

24 man definitely needs to come back. Just like the premades be exploiting randoms currently, I can exploit them in the smaller map should I be bothered to put in the work for it. I'm not putting that much energy into it now simply because they have too many bodies to farm. That's too much work I have to put in as a soloist in order to keep up. It doesn't help that they now have elixirs to fall back on and that they have gotten a 2nd battle high buff, but it is what it is.

It doesn't matter what type of premade you have. Premades are premades, and all premades at least have some sort of advantage that a soloist doesn't have. That being said, the true problem is that no one wants to adapt. No one wants to change strategies which is why combative premades are constantly snowballing out of control and why we're constantly seeing rule changes as a whole, rule changes that's probably not needed if everyone just adapted in the first place.

Maybe I might start truly learning the game again if they at least took out the elixirs. Until then, I'm reliant on multiple people to get me through, and if all I have are farmers when the groups show up, then I'm just at the mercy of the premades and there's really not much I can do about it whether I take part in the feeding process or sit back and watch them build a battle high faster than I can generate on my own. I mean, you can ban premades if you like. It'll change the problem of being farmed at a high rate. It'll change the problem of blowout games occurring. It'll change the problem of not making your own decisions. It's just not going to change the problem of no one wanting to adapt.

If you want to put in skill based matchmaking, go for it. I don't think it's going to do nothing for your premade problem though. The system is design to balance based off of solo stats, not team stats.

[Mawlzy]

If you want to put in skill based matchmaking, go for it. I don't think it's going to do nothing for your premade problem though. The system is design to balance based off of solo stats, not team stats.

Right, but anyone in a semi-static premade has an outlier win-rate. Sure, tiering could encouraging smurfing and alts, but my expectation is that premade members who make the team winning a priority are not going to smurf. Like Olivia isn't going to suddenly turn up as a Lala dressed as a chicken and change all her macros.

I have to say at the moment, the matches on the two maps I like are pretty balanced and fun. Equally, with burst still king I have no doubt the definitive meta stack will emerge, and I suspect it'll be strong enough to put us back in the pre 7.1 mess.

In which I case, I wonder if constraints could be placed on the composition of light parties?

[OliviaLugria]

Right, but anyone in a semi-static premade has an outlier win-rate. Sure, tiering could encouraging smurfing and alts, but my expectation is that premade members who make the team winning a priority are not going to smurf. Like Olivia isn't going to suddenly turn up as a Lala dressed as a chicken and change all her macros.

I have to say at the moment, the matches on the two maps I like are pretty balanced and fun. Equally, with burst still king I have no doubt the definitive meta stack will emerge, and I suspect it'll be strong enough to put us back in the pre 7.1 mess.

In which I case, I wonder if constraints could be placed on the composition of light parties?

I mean, if we did what we usually did, I’d expect my alts to have higher WRs than my main cause they don’t have those first 2,000 games where I didn’t care about what was happening.

Thanks to great back end code my alts are probably burned anyways, so they’re a bit pointless now anyways.