Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[MatchaokaCha]

I feel like some people never queued in Frontlines as a solo player when they're talking about the "social aspects". There's literally NOTHING social about this pvp mode since I rarely see input from players other than the macro spammer who decides to lead, and I suspect some of the people in premades don't want to step out of their social circles to interact with the rest of the team because, why bother? Even the party chat is almost always empty compared to a few years ago, unless you're in a premade. Every aspect of socialization in normal content that involves queuing has been in decline in FFXIV. Arguing the social aspects of this game is kind of a moot point to a solo player. Getting rid of premades might help a bit and encourage more interaction, but I doubt that's really going to solve the root cause of the issue in this game. The arguments for fairness is frankly more appealing to me at this point.

[Mawlzy]

I feel like some people never queued in Frontlines as a solo player when they're talking about the "social aspects". There's literally NOTHING social about this pvp mode since I rarely see input from players other than the macro spammer who decides to lead, and I suspect some of the people in premades don't want to step out of their social circles to interact with the rest of the team because, why bother? Even the party chat is almost always empty compared to a few years ago, unless you're in a premade. Every aspect of socialization in normal content that involves queuing has been in decline in FFXIV. Arguing the social aspects of this game is kind of a moot point to a solo player. Getting rid of premades might help a bit and encourage more interaction, but I doubt that's really going to solve the root cause of the issue in this game. The arguments for fairness is frankly more appealing to me at this point.

Sort of ironic that Discord, which was partly developed to improve the social aspects of FFXIV, has destroyed the in-game social aspect of FFXIV. Not to mention basically eliminating the social reasons for FCs.

[Mawlzy]

In absolutely WHAT universe is a 4v10 a huge advantage for us??? Hello???

Are you also mad that the 300 Spartans took on the Persian army???

Shouldn't a coordinated light party crush ten randos in most scenarios?

Again, a serious problem with the game mode.

Re: Sparta vs Persia, there are many in France still struggling with Agincourt. But that was a rather different situation to Frontline. More mud, for example.

[MatchaokaCha]

Sort of ironic that Discord, which was partly developed to improve the social aspects of FFXIV, has destroyed the in-game social aspect of FFXIV. Not to mention basically eliminating the social reasons for FCs.

Well I can certainly say the dev's decisions to lobotomize jobs, and make FFXIV into a "solo player game" (their words) ramped up the usage of Discord over the years. FFXIV feels like a skinwalker imitating an mmo nowadays.

[Mawlzy]

Well I can certainly say the dev's decisions to lobotomize jobs, and make FFXIV into a "solo player game" (their words) ramped up the usage of Discord over the years. FFXIV feels like a skinwalker imitating an mmo nowadays.

Nearly every modern MMO accommodates a solo playstyle because if they didn't they'd shed two thirds of their players.

[MatchaokaCha]

Except you could always queue as a solo player instead of using trusts.

[Mawlzy]

Except you could always queue as a solo player instead of using trusts.

To enjoy the deep and meaningful social interactions in dungeons?

o/...gg

[Exmo]

You certainly over exaggerate on the premade and acting like it is a world breaking issue for everyone in FF14 while it is not
For Korean, Chinese, and Japanese datacenter the premade is irreverent because they heavily play on framework of a "Commander"
Their randoms are highly participated and showing higher obedience to Commander style of Frontline gameplay
There maybe more European players willing to band together on Light, but it doesn't mean it is the same for every other datacenter
Light is only one of the datacenter and do not represent entire FF14 Frontline
You feel hurt because of premade also doesn't mean everyone else holds same feeling
You are not the ONLY Longewolf on FF14 Frontline, there are many other wolves around

I don't claim to speak for absolutely everyone. I speak for myself and I see others in this thread and other threads who share my experiences. When I'm constantly being shouted at by fans of premades who act like nobody has any problem and the game mode is currently fair, I have to speak my truth. You can't deny how stubbornly resistant to criticism some of these people are, just looking at the past couple of pages alone.

[Mawlzy]

Hahaha, NO.

The last time they "herded" people to a data center regarding Frontlines was during the Dynamis lockdown when folks like me couldn't escape, and the only thing that resulted in was premades growing fat and pompous as they kicked around an entire data center until said data center just learned to mass AFK in spawn because what was the point of trying?

Different situation. The Dynamis invasion was a premeditated decision fomented by people on Discord to take advantage of a weak PvP population. I have no doubt is was unpleasant for the locals, and says something about PvP Discord.

If everyone is compelled to play on the same DC, you're not going to get that kind of targeted, predatory behavior.

[MatchaokaCha]

To enjoy the deep and meaningful social interactions in dungeons?

o/...gg

Not deep like "oh my god I just had my deep introspection moment from our convo" lmao, but I once queued into a party full of lalas dressed as moogles. It was one of the best experiences I've ever had in a dungeon in any mmo. I was cry-laughing and typing the whole run. Just one of the many great experiences I've had in the past. The magic of spontaneous social interactions like that have completely evaporated in modern FFXIV. I don't see any of that anymore. Hell, I remember when parties took their time and chatted between pulls and I didn't feel time was wasted one bit since conversations were actually pleasant to have back then, and the game didn't feel stale.