Ban premade parties in Frontline please

[Exmo]

I'm still waiting for and answer on why you deserve to win if the other party talking to each other is too OP.

The premise is absurd. Teams don't win because they "deserve" to win.

No comment from you on the suggestion of only matching premades with other premades. I'll take that to mean you have no problems with the idea.

[DallsBeep]

Teams don't win because they "deserve" to win.

So when you lose, it's not your teams fault.

Not a serious PVPer.

If they just hand out wins arbitrarily then what's your problem?

[Exmo]

So when you lose, it's not your teams fault.

Not a serious PVPer.

If they just hand out wins arbitrarily then what's your problem?

I see you're not really here too have an earnest conversation, you're just a premader trying to shout down ideas that threaten your self-image. I'm not going to engage with your comments any more other than to say...

Hey if premades were only matched with other premades, the playing field would be fair. I don't see how anyone could possibly have an issue with that.

[DallsBeep]

I see you're not really here too have an earnest conversation, you're just a premader trying to shout down ideas that threaten your self-image. I'm not going to engage with your comments any more other than to say...

Hey if premades were only matched with other premades, the playing field would be fair. I don't see how anyone could possibly have an issue with that.

It's hard to have a serious conversation with someone about PVP who doesn't understand the rudimentary concepts of what it's about. ie. competition. If you don't want to compete, then don't play.

[Exmo]

It's hard to have a serious conversation with someone about PVP who doesn't understand the rudimentary concepts of what it's about. ie. competition. If you don't want to compete, then don't play.

Hey if premades were only matched with other premades, the playing field would be fair. I don't see how anyone could possibly have an issue with that.

[DallsBeep]

Hey if premades were only matched with other premades, the playing field would be fair. I don't see how anyone could possibly have an issue with that.

I'm perfectly fine with separating the people that come there to play the mode from the people that just come for their daily rewards. If you want to be grouped with the latter then I wonder who it is really that wants to play on easy mode.

[gidsonBrand]

Hey if premades were only matched with other premades, the playing field would be fair. I don't see how anyone could possibly have an issue with that.

Because the social aspect of the game is gone?

I've introduced so many people to PvP by just saying "hey lets go do our daily Frontline roulette." And I'll run them through the ropes in the Wovles Den first, we'll giggle about seducing each other with Dancer LB in a duel, then go on trying to work together and fight some people.

But because we're part of the terrible premade boogieman, you'd rather have the four of us queue up separately, play with four different ideas about what's happening, rather than hanging out. Just because you don't want to interact with other people, either socially or through gameplay, doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer.

[Mawlzy]

Because the social aspect of the game is gone?

I've introduced so many people to PvP by just saying "hey lets go do our daily Frontline roulette." And I'll run them through the ropes in the Wovles Den first, we'll giggle about seducing each other with Dancer LB in a duel, then go on trying to work together and fight some people.

But because we're part of the terrible premade boogieman, you'd rather have the four of us queue up separately, play with four different ideas about what's happening, rather than hanging out. Just because you don't want to interact with other people, either socially or through gameplay, doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer.

Wouldn't premades matched with other premades be more social?

It's pretty clear premades are not going away, and while playing any game on VC is my idea of hell, I recognize some people enjoy it.

If we return to 70%+ premade win-rates, which I think is inevitable, the onus is on SQEX to address the problem. Whether that is through matchmaking, balancing premades across teams, or diminishing the oppressive effects of synched burst, that's for them to figure out.

Meanwhile, I think premades have a responsibility to approach the mode appropriately. Specifically, recognize this is a team mode, not a light party mode, and do everything they can to help their team win. This should be obvious, but many premades take a different approach. As such, they're violating the spirit of the mode in the same way AFKers are.

I thank you, Mr. Brand, for bring fresh meat new players into the mode. It pressures SQEX to give FL more love, and helps maintain a healthy population.

[Exmo]

Because the social aspect of the game is gone?

I've introduced so many people to PvP by just saying "hey lets go do our daily Frontline roulette." And I'll run them through the ropes in the Wovles Den first, we'll giggle about seducing each other with Dancer LB in a duel, then go on trying to work together and fight some people.

But because we're part of the terrible premade boogieman, you'd rather have the four of us queue up separately, play with four different ideas about what's happening, rather than hanging out. Just because you don't want to interact with other people, either socially or through gameplay, doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer.

How would matching premades against other premades make the game less social? You talk about no longer being able to group with other players but... what you're quoting would have no impact on that. Did you misread my post?