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  1. #261
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    Aurora Seldaris
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    And once you announce the "I will quit the game for xyz reason", you get the famous "Can I get your stuff" or "You won't be missed" answers first.
    Unless it has become a critical situation wherein player retention and FFXIV profits go backwards. Then we add the :shocked_Pikachu_face:.
    Wish I could upvote more than once, literally couldn't have said it better
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    And once you announce the "I will quit the game for xyz reason", you get the famous "Can I get your stuff" or "You won't be missed" answers first.
    Unless it has become a critical situation wherein player retention and FFXIV profits go backwards. Then we add the :shocked_Pikachu_face:.
    Yes, or worse, people will come back with "sure, you'll be back, and then you'll say 'I'm leaving at x patch for sure if they don't fix y.'" Like there's always an excuse made to disregard somebody's stance or minimize the loss of players.
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  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    Brother, how many MORE bad decisions must they make before it's enough? How many MORE times must they lie, or obfuscate, or just not give you what they promised, or innovate, or fail to deliver on what little they ALREADY do, before you're done with it?

    They've already decided that mechanical designs of fights cannot be anything else but "The same thing but faster" and decided that jobs must therefore be more simplified and mobie to compensate. Basically, putting ALL the difficulty in the "fake difficulty" of the DDR dance pattern, and simplifying the jobs into oblivion. That's it, they've already shown you where they're going. The same way that "one-off changes" in prior expansions weren't acutally a fluke, but an indicator of the future. How many times does a pattern have to repeat before people see it?
    Hey, look, I totally hear where you're coming from. At this point, the thing that is drawing me most to this game is crafting and gathering. I still enjoy that a lot, and frankly, it's my favorite way to wind down after a long day with work and the kids. *starts putting on clown makeup*... I'm sure they're not going to gut crafting and gathering to ruin that for players now, will they? ...*adds clown nose*

    I will say that I have a while before my sub runs out, but I have not added time to my sub and turned off auto-renewal.
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  4. #264
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    I do think its very funny that in an expansion explicitly about how you need hardships and strife to live a complete life and not become an incapable sheltered baby person they're going around lobotomizing every job and removing any possible pain point they can find to ensure things are as 'approachable' and frictionless as possible.
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    Been occasionally seeing some comments mention getting rid of the timer doesn't change anything and how it only punished inexperienced players, but I don't think that's right.

    With 7.0-7.1x it limited Paradox's availability and otherwise you had to weigh your other instant cast options (proc'd fire3, triple/swiftcast, thunder, or a polyglot, etc) that likely may cause some amount dps loss, but now you can use it whenever during the fire phase for mobility/weave space. That tradeoff is just gone now.

    If it was the punishment for dropping it that needed adjusting, wouldn't dropping a stack of Astral Fire and resetting the timer or so instead been enough?
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    If it was the punishment for dropping it that needed adjusting, wouldn't dropping a stack of Astral Fire and resetting the timer or so instead been enough?
    You could go one further and have Umbral Soul become 'Astral Soul' in Fire Phase, which costs a GCD, does nothing damagewise or MPwise, and instead just gives 1 AF stack. In regular gameplay, never touch it, and use Paradox to reset the timer as we currently do. In 'I have made a mistake' gameplay, it would allow you to set back up into AF3 to continue the rotation as before, but at the cost of spending 1 GCD on an action that deals no damage
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  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    And once you announce the "I will quit the game for xyz reason", you get the famous "Can I get your stuff" or "You won't be missed" answers first.
    Unless it has become a critical situation wherein player retention and FFXIV profits go backwards. Then we add the :shocked_Pikachu_face:.
    It never ceases to weird me out how often MMO players celebrate people abandoning their... Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wired-Lain View Post
    It never ceases to weird me out how often MMO players celebrate people abandoning their... Massively Multiplayer Online Game.
    Well for the "Can i get your stuff?", the one to blame for that was over dramatic players doing a rage quit and writing a flamming post about it while saying they will never come back and that they are giving their gears and stuff away.... Then it get turned into a meme for when a player did a rage quit post on forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wired-Lain View Post
    I do think its very funny that in an expansion explicitly about how you need hardships and strife to live a complete life and not become an incapable sheltered baby person they're going around lobotomizing every job and removing any possible pain point they can find to ensure things are as 'approachable' and frictionless as possible.
    Maybe they want us to suffer to teach us some hardships, by that they make every job unappealing and bland.
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  10. #270
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Maybe they want us to suffer to teach us some hardships, by that they make every job unappealing and bland.
    Farther still existed a star without strife...
    ...where none remembered life's trials─or its joys.
    What its people had gained from ease, they lost to apathy.
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