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    Auro_Seldaris's Avatar
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    Aurora Seldaris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SubmarineAlt View Post
    What you're missing is a chip on your shoulder. Some misguided people played for only the story, and they felt that the most recent expansion's story wasn't up to par, so now their shoulders are in need of repair.

    If you're having fun, keep having fun. The opinions of others shouldn't matter to you.
    Nice strawman fallacy. I swear, did literally nobody ever take a debate course in HS or college? You're also falling into the "either/or fallacy". There are people, such as myself, who both play for the story AND enjoy the battle content. It's the story that gives that content context, which is important to many people. Regardless of it being objectively up to par, you're trying to divide people into ONLY two binary camps when it's actually a spectrum. This game can have both good battle content AND a good story, and people can enjoy both, or neither. It's not a binary choice. There are people who are disappointed with both, and that's our right to feel that way.

    You and I do agree on one thing, though... this is all completely irrelevant to OP, at this moment in their game experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    There's a ton of things to do in this game and a lot of it is still genuinely fun to experience. The problems discussed in here don't really get felt until you catch up and run out of stuff you want to do (or when they change a job in a way you don't like)

    As a ShB baby I recall someone shout chatting in Eulemore one night about the patch cadence during 5.4-5.5 and thinking "don't really see what's wrong with it, dude maybe needs to take a break", but nowadays I get what they were talking about.

    The game's probably better as a place to visit, not to live in.
    I know we are in disagreement on BLM in that other thread, but honestly... you and I are actually of the same mind here. Sadly... I do now think of it as a nice place to visit, but not to live.
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    SubmarineAlt's Avatar
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    Bzzzt Buzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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    Siren
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    Nice strawman fallacy. I swear, did literally nobody ever take a debate course in HS or college? You're also falling into the "either/or fallacy".
    Glad I saw this! You clearly did not take a debate class. In order for me to use a strawman, I must be attacking or refuting an argument, which I am not. I'm making an assertion. Additionally, I'm not doing an either/or fallacy simply because I used the word "some."

    Please revisit your debate classes. You have no clue you're talking about. And, going off of the rest of your post, you also failed to actually read my post in full. Which is funny, actually. You're attacking an argument I wasn't even making, drawing a conclusion based off a false representation on what I'm saying.

    Now, what's that called again? You're the expert. You took a debate class, after all. Go ahead, let me know.
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