Dalamud and Tural

[Remeekus]

How far away was Dalamud from Eorzea to be in the sky and everyne assuming it was an actual moon for the longest time. If it was localized to just Eorzea like FF13s Cocoon, than it wouldnt be seen in Tural. BUT! if it was far enough out that they could see it from there, what would they think when one of the moons suddenly disappeared from the sky? News would be slow to return, since the mamool ja we encounter are far from home and most of them are hostile. On that note, what about Othard? I assume news of it would be because of spies in Garlemald, so they would know about it at least aside from Azim Steppe

[Cleretic]

In 1.0 but before the descent, Dalamud looked like this.



So it would've been seen globally, but wouldn't have necessarily been identified as a moon; that could've plausibly just been a big star, especially if you don't have a lot of astrological knowhow. Now, Dalamud did descend, so at some point in that time they probably figured out it was some kind of moon or satellite, but they probably didn't get a whole lot of details at the time.

On the subject of Tural, the Mamool Ja actually turned up to Limsa after the Calamity, so they reasonably could've learned the details from locals if they were so inclined. They were more interested in the Calamity and its aftereffects itself, though, it probably wouldn't have been a primary area of inquiry.

For Othard, they probably had about the same level of knowledge, but without anyone going over to confirm any theories; chances are not many Othardians would've cared all too much, though, since most of Othard was suffering a bit of an 'Imperial occupation' problem at the time. You could make a plausible case that the Xaela would've cared, given the moon's a big part of their mythology, but... again, it wouldn't have necessarily been clear that Dalamud actually was a moon.

[MikkoAkure]

You could make a plausible case that the Xaela would've cared, given the moon's a big part of their mythology, but... again, it wouldn't have necessarily been clear that Dalamud actually was a moon.

The Dalamiq tribe worshipped Dalamud, but unfortunately the writers haven’t informed us how they reacted to the loss of the “moon”.

[Anonymoose]

I understand why there's not debris everywhere - the explosion happened over Carteneau and the debris field is a massive circle around it.
(Would have been fun to go deep-ocean with one but the time has passed.)

But, yeah, we probably should occasionally hear more from people who remember that time the moonstar or mini-moon turned red and disappeared over the horizon, imo. Hells, even among the people who keep up with global rumors, I feel like more people have heard about the Warrior of Light than that time the moon fell and blew up and a giant kind-of-dragon came out of it.

[Cleretic]

But, yeah, we probably should occasionally hear more from people who remember that time the moonstar or mini-moon turned red and disappeared over the horizon, imo. Hells, even among the people who keep up with global rumors, I feel like more people have heard about the Warrior of Light than that time the moon fell and blew up and a giant kind-of-dragon came out of it.

The one thing that's worth raising for this is that it's a global event, but that it happened five years ago. And even people in real life don't talk much about what happened five years ago unless it was directly relevant to them.

This year is admittedly a bad year for that comparison, because five years ago a Very Big Thing happened that was directly relevant to most everybody; we do talk about that one fairly regularly. And in fairness, Eorzea does talk semi-regularly about Dalamud, the big thing that happened that was fairly directly relevant to their lives; it's not the biggest topic, but it's discussed.

But for Tural and Othard, I feel like all their conversation about it was already done five years ago, and the best you'd get is 'oh yeah that did happen'. It didn't really affect them, and... well, think about how much you talk about something big that happened in another country five years ago.

EDIT: If anything I feel like we should occasionally get people bringing it up as 'hey, how do you feel about This One Thing I Know About Your Country'... but it probably wouldn't actually read the way it should because of how often Dalamud actually does come up. That gag would only work if Dalamud hadn't been talked about since, like... Stormblood.

[Remarus]

It's important to note that once Nael activated the Lunar Transmitter in Castrum Novum to initiate Dalamud's fall to Eorzea, it became tidally locked into geosynchronous orbit above Aldenard. At that point, it would never have returned to the skies of Tural regardless of how close it got to the planet. They'd have simply noticed the next day that the red moon did not return to its position in the sky, which would have been a cause for concern but only in an astronomical sense.

Now, Dalamud has been calculated to be roughly 1/4 the size of the Moon (as a rough estimate, some folks later in the thread bring it down to about the size of Mount Olympus): https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/232418

Whether it would have shown up slightly over the Eastern Horizon as it hovered above Eorzea is for someone with Universe Sandbox to figure out, but I am not spending $30 to determine that.

So on the Turali side, the Calamity was a loud explosion across the horizon and likely a freak tidal wave that flooded the lower levels of Tuliyolal and Coastal Settlements. We don't know where the plate tectonics are on Etherys, so we don't know if tidal waves are common along the Turali coast, but everywhere we've been outside of Eorzea, the Seventh Umbral Calamity has basically never been mentioned. It appears to be a localized thing to the region, likely because of the actions of Louisoix.