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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...70#post6666270

    "The game's fine" is just "I like it" but a slightly different flavor. Said in an attempt to shutdown perceived "doomposting".

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...64#post6665964

    Literally you. "The majority of players disagree with you (smiley face)" is only a few words more than "I liked it", which is the implied sentiment of those who you are representing. And the smiley at the end is an implication that you, yourself, agree with them. The entire statement is a passive-agressive attempt to shut down any discourse around the game.

    I'm at work right now and I don't have time to dig through the forums, but go look at any thread written by someone in good faith, with long posts about the problems with the expansion, and you'll see that at some point it inevitably gets filled up with "I LIKED IT" posts. I even
    Neither of these threads are examples of "laser-focused, good-faith critique" of Dawntrail getting buried in an avalanche of simplistic "I LIKED IT!" or "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, A DOOMPOSTER, A TROLL."

    The first thread is OP making a few QoL suggestions, a few posts in the middle where people meet negativity with positivity, which peters out into the standard level of negativity. OP wasn't getting shouted down, conversation wasn't being closed, by positivity.

    The second link is literally me saying I liked the game in response to someone saying it's crap, "deal with it" or something similarly dull minded, and my one little post getting inundated with Dawntrail haters. I'm not so powerful that on my own, in twenty words or less, I can bury a thread in an avalanche of positivity.

    I personally haven't seen a single example of what you claim despite being active here for the past few months and seeing loads of threads. But, I allow that it might happen and I missed it. If you can provide a better example when you have time later I can give it a look.
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  2. #52
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    Zepla = FFXIV’s Wish version of Asmongold?
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kandraxx View Post
    Zepla = FFXIV’s Wish version of Asmongold?
    She was the community darling for a while because she was a war refugee, but then she started talking shit about the game.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    It’s disheartening, and I’ve lost respect for her. She made me love the game, but now it feels like she's stabbing me in the heart over a stumble. Forget it. Forget her.
    The worst thing about betrayal is that it comes from someone/something you care about. It's not strange that people have strong reaction when the thing they used to love change for the worse. I mean, your feeling and reaction to her basically is the same as hers toward the game, imo.

    And not just you. People called her doomer, grifter, etc. the moment she start criticizing ff14.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazuke_Miso View Post
    https://youtu.be/UnY7PMsV8QI?si=9MCrmXa-iwJ4Is-9



    Hearing Zepla talk about the live letter, it really reminds a lot of us just how much wonder and magic has evaporated from the live letters. We still rely on community translators to understand the live letter to this day. The live letters are such a sick joke at this point, and their stale format is a good representation of the staleness of the entire game.
    I'm not sure what you're wanting from a predominately Japanese game.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Auro_Seldaris View Post
    Yup. Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard, Epic, Mihoyo... if these companies did what SE/CSIII was doing, they would be absolutely crucified by their players. My brother used to play Escape from Tarkov, and if you white knights of the forums think a little mild and valid criticism of Yoshida (and the game) is toxic and evil, you should see the way Nikita (lead dev of Tarkov) was treated. Being harassed in-game, being harassed on Twitter/X, getting his fancy sporst car keyed, having shoes thrown at him during a live event and being screamed at to "FIX YOUR SHIT GAME, NIKITA!" You might recoil in horror from that treatment, but guess what?

    It worked. He fixed his shit. Turns out, anger works. Complaining works, when it isn't silenced and smothered in "goody good-good feels".

    And guess what ? I used to be a big white knight for this game myself. I used to get into heated debates about this game with my brother, I thought Yoshida was a rockstar, that he could do no wrong. I've just become so worn-out by this game and these devs that I can't find it within me to praise them for mediocrity anymore.

    As long as the White Knights of the Square Enix Creative Studio III Defense Force silence all valid criticism, Yoshida will never fix his shit.
    Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but it seems like you are saying that constant harassment, vandalism, and (possible) assault are what players should be doing if they want to see change. I would rather the game stay in its current state than see anyone from the dev team be put through this. It's just not right. I don't care how angry people are.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    I've only somewhat recently started watching the live letters, and I missed this recent one because it was early for me and I had to leave for work, but unless they are drastically different now than they were back then they seem pretty enjoyable to me

    I like how excited they seem and how much they joke around
    It's fun to see what's coming up, though it sucks we have to wait so long between patches for things
    but I know it isn't for everyone, and it doesn't take away from the major criticisms the game is facing right now
    I agree, and I am excited to see our lord Yoship. He is still happy to be a showman.
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  8. #58
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    I didnt th8nk she made content for ff anymore anyway. I thought she moved to WoW. However, the game has been gutted and damn near destroyed with Dawntrail. I doubt they can fully recover from this. As I said before, the story was the last stronghold they had. That's gone now.
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  9. #59
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    I understand,,,, if my character looked like she got a block embedded in her head I'd be depressed like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagacious View Post
    I agree, and I am excited to see our lord Yoship. He is still happy to be a showman.
    thank you sage cologne for your contribution to the cause
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