"Another post will surely grab their attention-"

[Jeeqbit]

Outside of the forums, there are probably more people dunking on black mage, saying that they got what they deserved, trashing on the black mage players' supposed arrogance.

That's really unfortunate. I think the people who will understand the black mage situation the most are those that have played long enough. Even people who didn't play black mage, probably ran into one that was having fun working around their limitations. It's a fun thing sometimes to see a badly placed leylines and adjust where the tank buster lands for them because "you know".

But maybe newer players wouldn't all necessarily understand this black mage history.

[Rithy255]

It's honestly time to be most vocal about changes, if it also doesn't start getting better you know what we can do? vote with our wallet.

This time do not falter and give up until they actually deliver on promises, we should not be waiting until "8.0" so job design can be "fixed" when in all likelyhood it will barely do anything to improve.

[Daralii]

It's honestly time to be most vocal about changes, if it also doesn't start getting better you know what we can do? vote with our wallet.

This time do not falter and give up until they actually deliver on promises, we should not be waiting until "8.0" so job design can be "fixed" when in all likelyhood it will barely do anything to improve.

People have been vocal about job design since ShB, and they've only made things worse while also wrecking the game's other pillars. They don't care and Yoshida is content to forget his own words from many years ago.

[Rithy255]

People have been vocal about job design since ShB, and they've only made things worse while also wrecking the game's other pillars. They don't care and Yoshida is content to forget his own words from many years ago.

That's why we up complaints more and if that don't work vote with our wallet. At the very worse most of us who wanted more from this game will likely be having more fun somewhere else.

I've for the longest time waited for this game to improve but it will not without actual backlash, back in SHB that backlash was silenced due to the amount of new players and not as loud as it is now because its not just a few things that have gotten worse pretty much everything has got worse over time, including the amount of bad job changes.

SE got positive reinforcement with SHB/EW which is a major difference to now with the amount of decline, maybe this time they will actually realise what they are doing isn't good for their wallet anymore and that they need to reverse course to make the game appealing.

Of course the biggest thing is we don't know if our outcome as a community speaking more openly against these changes, but yeah it won't likely change or make a difference, but at this point what's there to lose by being more vocal and loud about it.

[Hallarem]

People have been vocal about job design since ShB, and they've only made things worse while also wrecking the game's other pillars. They don't care and Yoshida is content to forget his own words from many years ago.

Currently:

- If the dev team is the government, moving to canada is not an option because there is no canada, and by the way you can move to the next town ("other games) for a bit, but don't forget to pay the taxes to us (sub)

- Clarity in our own plans, vision and willingness to listen ourselves in our own echo chamber is the key to make ourselves happy. Remember to keep the media censored whenever they ask questions from us so they make us look good and guide us to tell about new features (Famitsu) so we can just glaze ourselves. We are already a dictatorship

- Learn to listen to the formula, adapt to our new massive patch cycles and highlight compliments, ignore complaints. We don't care if they care or not

- A lot of the jobs are too hard for our own devs, so we decided to dumb them down, but hey we are living in our own realm!


There, I updated it

[NanaWiloh]

I had a long topic ready for this morning to post concerning all of this, but for some reason the forum crapped itself (I'll just take that as a sign); my post here is just a much shorter summary how I've been feeling lately.

Yoshi P and CS3 as a whole disappoints me, I don't get it anymore.

Caught a taste of the crapping myself trying to post a reply to a thread.