They are gutting Black Mage even more in 7.2

[Rithy255]

It's not like Black Mage actually brings anything to a group TBH.

No barrier, no shield, no heals, no party-wide buff, no mobility (muh turret caster), and it's not like the DPS checks are pre-nerf P8S levels of tight, so your damage is basically redundant too.

And yet somehow, not only do you insist on choosing the job with zero group utility, you force the rest of a group to adjust around your very existence. At least the Samurai and Viper mains can move while doing a burst.

Your average Black Mage in modern encounter design is practically dead weight compared to the other casters. Red Mage has 50 raises, a damage buff, and a barrier. Summoner's a glorified Phys Ranged with a raise, a heal, and a damage buff, and the Picto's doing solid damage on it's own, let alone the kitchen sink of a kit it brings.

The solution isn't to get rid of a jobs weaknesses its to buff it's strength, BLM was hard to master and was designed around having the highest damage. What's the point of having a job system if they are all the same but different animations.

This is meant to be a MMORPG, But theirs no job system (the trinity system doesn't even make sense), so i can barely call it a RPG, theirs hardly any social aspects either so it's a stretch to even call this game a MMO anymore.

[ElysiumDragon]

The solution isn't to get rid of a jobs weaknesses its to buff it's strength, BLM was hard to master and was designed around having the highest damage. What's the point of having a job system if they are all the same but different animations.

This is meant to be a MMORPG, But theirs no job system (the trinity system doesn't even make sense), so i can barely call it a RPG, theirs hardly any social aspects either so it's a stretch to even call this game a MMO anymore.

Current Black Mage is irrelevant on a foundational level. 'Buffing it's strength' isn't going to make Black Mage any less likely to be excluded from a static recruitment, especially when it's also the job with the widest variation in performance between individual players. It doesn't matter if you're some God-tier raider on Black Mage, if what you bring to the table serves little value otherwise.

Why should I trust a random BLM main, when I can instead trust the Summoner to put out more consistent and respectable damage, and bring utility as well?

[Rithy255]

Current Black Mage is irrelevant on a foundational level. 'Buffing it's strength' isn't going to make Black Mage any less likely to be excluded from a static recruitment, especially when it's also the job with the widest variation in performance between individual players. It doesn't matter if you're some God-tier raider on Black Mage, if what you bring to the table serves little value otherwise.

Why should I trust a random BLM main, when I can instead trust the Summoner to put out more consistent and respectable damage, and bring utility as well?

The solution for you is to turn black mage into summoner, because people like you can't handle unique job design with visible strengths and weaknesses

Excluding a black mage without seeing how they perform in the party is just ridiculous in the first place, even if you wanted a utility rez caster you know black mage can fill in for melee... as their whole point is they deal high damage like melees do.

[SubmarineAlt]

The solution for you is to turn black mage into summoner, because people like you can't handle unique job design with visible strengths and weaknesses

Excluding a black mage without seeing how they perform in the party is just ridiculous in the first place, even if you wanted a utility rez caster you know black mage can fill in for melee... as their whole point is they deal high damage like melees do.

The person you're responding to does not do any form of end game content. They are not excluding BLM/making party decisions because they don't do anything that would require it. They're just a little armchair kid that doesn't matter. Don't give them your time.

[Rithy255]

The person you're responding to does not do any form of end game content. They are not excluding BLM/making party decisions because they don't do anything that would require it. They're just a little armchair kid that doesn't matter. Don't give them your time.

Ah makes sense for these forums, thanks for the heads up.