When will they acknowledge that the gameplay is just horrendous?

[KhudusQestir]

Why are you here if you hate it?

As someone who recently cancelled their sub, I'm here to see how the forums are doing and support the messaging to Square. Yes, they most likely won't listen but it's always good to make an effort.

I want to enjoy the game, not hate it but I don't want to pay for an expensive sub by idling around because all they could do was reskin the same content we always been getting and butchering the story. I'm really bored of the game but I want a reason to come back cause I do love it.

[Bad_Luck]

So do those things instead I guess, shoot you need me to tell you everything?

[Bad_Luck]

You aren\\'t offering any new ideas

[KhudusQestir]

You aren\\'t offering any new ideas

I've already tried years before and they never listened. Maybe now they will after canceling my sub.

[Daughterofdeath]

You aren\\'t offering any new ideas

people have posted and suggest massive pages of new ideas that just get ignored so why would anyone bother anymore to offer them lol

[YumieYumiki]

The answer, unfortunately, is: when it has a significant impact on their bottom line which they can attribute to the gameplay. (If DT was really unsuccessful from their PoV they'll sooner blame it on the story anyway)

And pretty much every part of the gameplay is bad, not just the job design or the bosses, or the super linear dungeons. Quests are laughable. I think the only quest that felt like it had any trace of challenge in it was the one in shadowbringers MSQ where you had to calculate how many planks the shipyard had in stock. And even then you could also just try every answer until you had the right one.

And PvP in this game is aggressively terrible in every single respect save for not having gear.

At the end of the day it's just a fancy storytelling game with a dress up component. Only reason I play it is to replay the story once in a while. It is what it is, I guess.

[Kaurhz]

They won't lol...

Because even those that actually don't like the gameplay will still continue to engage with it, and will unironically actually praise it.. All it takes is 1 release and they start gushing again, disregarding the fact it's the same downtrodden formula they've been engaging with for the past several years.

They'll praise it when it has the shiny, new smell to it, then when it has been exhausted and once they are in a content lul, they'll go back to slating it, and thus goes that perpetual cycle.

I'm in the window where I expect nothing to change.. The biggest reason I am still subbed are all extrinsic factors, e.g., friends and social factors, that's really the only time I login. Gameplay wise, this game went under for me a while ago.. I exhausted what I was willing to do achievement-hunting-wise before getting utterly bored and exposed to some of the worst, and most neglected facets of the game. They may as well delete crafting from the game, and just give you a singular synthesis button, with an RNG success rate on experts, because that is all that is tantamount to. Anything that promoted player skill or expression in crafting (for instance) died with WWYW, in that regard.

The best you or anyone is going to get is "maybe we've been far too relaxed" -- and sure they may release some fun experiences (e.g., normal mods are a step up), but it's still the same underlying dance.. You learn it then that's all.

[Valence]

Tbh it sounds like you're having a bit of an existential crisis with the fundamentals of the medium. Most videogames involve you pressing buttons to perform actions in-game, just like turning a page to read a book. Focusing on the joy you lack from turning the page is to mistake the medium's phenomenological nature. Taking a break from videogames can often be healthy.

If only pressing those buttons actually made me think...

[Red-thunder]

They won't lol...

Because even those that actually don't like the gameplay will still continue to engage with it, and will unironically actually praise it.. All it takes is 1 release and they start gushing again, disregarding the fact it's the same downtrodden formula they've been engaging with for the past several years.

They'll praise it when it has the shiny, new smell to it, then when it has been exhausted and once they are in a content lul, they'll go back to slating it, and thus goes that perpetual cycle.

I'm in the window where I expect nothing to change.. The biggest reason I am still subbed are all extrinsic factors, e.g., friends and social factors, that's really the only time I login. Gameplay wise, this game went under for me a while ago.. I exhausted what I was willing to do achievement-hunting-wise before getting utterly bored and exposed to some of the worst, and most neglected facets of the game. They may as well delete crafting from the game, and just give you a singular synthesis button, with an RNG success rate on experts, because that is all that is tantamount to. Anything that promoted player skill or expression in crafting (for instance) died with WWYW, in that regard.

The best you or anyone is going to get is "maybe we've been far too relaxed" -- and sure they may release some fun experiences (e.g., normal mods are a step up), but it's still the same underlying dance.. You learn it then that's all.

Maybe the playerbase will see through the derivative, stale exploratory zone in 7.25 but I have no hopes honestly.


But maybe I'll be surprised. If people realize that the game's issues go far deeper than the lack of an exploratory zone... If that happens I think it'll light a fire under Yoshi P's pants. They are 100% pinning all their hopes on 7.25 placating literally every concern in the game.

[Hallarem]

Watch most content creators switch to videos saying "Ffxiv is saved" or "content extravaganza" the moment the patch is released even if the gameplay is the same.