Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[Burmecia]

but also the loudest haters of her are mostly transphobes that are grabbing into any issue--

Wuk Lamat was trans?
Well, slap my ass and call me Sally.

We are only talking about the character here in this thread, right?

[Red-thunder]

Wuk Lamat gets too much dialogue and thats about it,

She is so much worse than just having too much dialogue lol

Her personality is something out of a Saturday morning teenage anime.

[danken20]

Just going to put this here

[AshtonCrowe]

What's even funnier is they're quadrupling down on her if the 7.2 trailer is to be believed, Square Enix does not learn.

7.2 might be good, Might not. But we all know the incoming storm revolving around Lamat is coming alongside more threats of "I will unsub"

[Antharaes]

Just going to put this here

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

[danken20]

You must have weak ears then

[Hallarem]

My fundamental problem with Lyse was that M'naago was clearly a far better choice to lead the resistance when the old fella copped it. Plus, yeah, that accent in English. Why did Lyse come from South Kensington when everyone else was from Barnsley?

M'naago was clearly the better choice, but nepotism and Lyse's father having that power of the name working for her.
My main problem was her entitlement, yes. "Why wont you fight for meeeeee" from a person who has gone through 0 amount of hardship IN ALA MHIGO like the rest of the citizens.

What pushed me over the edge was the fact that whenever she had a monologue on how she learned something, she literally went against that supposedly learned lesson in the next cutscene. She never learned anything and got rewarded for it, but thats nepotism for you I guess. M'naagos name wasnt big enough to rouse the people *shrugs* which is fine for me storywise. Annoying, but believable.



Wuk Lamat? Just doesn't make any sense. She is equally a fish out of water but at least Lyse had an excuse of being out of Ala Mhigo.
We are SUPPPOSED TO BELIEVE, that a person of her country, having lived her whole life in the country, interacted her whole life with the people, even worse OLD PEOPLE, who she claims to be SUPER CLOSE TO. Old people love nothing more than to talk and gossip. AND we are supposed to just put fingers in our ears, cover our eyes and go "lalalala" and believe that those old people didnt tell her ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY or ITS PEOPLE, OR THE PAST.
How can she claim to love the country and its people when she doesnt know jack squat about them, nor interacted with them. Surface level writing, protect papas peace.

Worse crime of the story was that it was NEVER unclear who the new Dawnservant was gonna be. The cooking contest shouldve been the last punch in the face hint. Pair up the obvious bad guys with the good guys, or pair up the bad guys together and the good guys together? lol. And Koana sisconning his way out of the contest losing his entire character and motivation to become a cheerleader and further murdered character in 7.2 with the Rroneek Saga, I guess his goal wasnt strong enough to withstand the wuk no jutsu. But again Wukkie isnt the main issue, the writing and pacing is.
Please dont let these writers touch the MSQ ever again, relegate them to "Further Hildibrand" or something.

[Mawlzy]

Wuk Lamat? Just doesn't make any sense. She is equally a fish out of water but at least Lyse had an excuse of being out of Ala Mhigo.
We are SUPPPOSED TO BELIEVE, that a person of her country, having lived her whole life in the country, interacted her whole life with the people, even worse OLD PEOPLE, who she claims to be SUPER CLOSE TO. Old people love nothing more than to talk and gossip. AND we are supposed to just put fingers in our ears, cover our eyes and go "lalalala" and believe that those old people didnt tell her ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE COUNTRY or ITS PEOPLE, OR THE PAST.
How can she claim to love the country and its people when she doesnt know jack squat about them, nor interacted with them. Surface level writing, protect papas peace.

So much of it was incomprehensible.

Potential heirs to continent-spanning monarchies spend most of their childhood being groomed for the role. At the very least, use the fact Wuk Lamat somehow knew nothing ("Papa" was an idiot?) as a plot device. Maybe she spent her childhood batting a ball of yarn around the palace.

The whole ceremony of the reeds thing was equally bizarre. Big Bird scratching his head wondering why the crop was failing, despite the fact that the annual festival spewed aether everywhere feeding the reeds!? A fact iirc that the odd carpenter guy knew perfectly well, but chose not to mention to anyone until after the fact.

Is an executive editor named anywhere in the credits? Or are the writers given a rough idea of the filler required between the dungeons and trials and told to just wing it?

[Mawlzy]

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

It does appear that many FF14 content creators either rely on squeaky baby voices or harangue the audience like they're making a pitch for class president.

[Burmecia]

I had to click...and it was horrendous. I never understood why people think, that yelling makes them more right. And that voice....that's still ringing even through my tinnitus...awful.

i am less than 3 minutes in, second listening since the first time didn't leave much, in my head, like any robust, well thought-out counter-criticism.
she seems to think that DT criticism is ridiculous, says that too from the get go. so points for announcing her stance loud and clear like that.
uh, i fail to see how VA Z being trans and VA X being gay have anything to do with anything. anything being their acting skill, i suppose.
also, was that, uh, assimilating drag queens and trans women? drag queens and GSRM/LGBT? anyway...

i could go into nitty gritty, but i won't, because i am out of steam...
i don't think wuk lamat is the worst thing in history of everything. i find her woefully uninteresting. anti-je ne sais quoi, unique in ffxiv's cast because no one else, of comparable importance, is as banal as her.
i don't wan't to talk to her.
sometimes, some people, just don't find fictional people interesting and that is ok.
also, maybe better writing could have save wuk lamat. maybe not. it's too late now.

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If authors and screenwriters do their jobs properly you will hate some characters and love others, whilst some will always stay in the grey area that's somewhere in between. It's also 'safe' to wish a fictional character dead, because it might or might not happen and this 'wishing' is mostly meaningless.
- just interesting quote of slight relevance to the discussion at hand i found, from random internet writer