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  1. #3271
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    To be fair, I dislike Smile because it was overused and used in the wrong spots. For the Coronation? Sure, why not, it's a Disney moment and people are happy. Building a train? Anything but that song pls. Also I felt bad for the singer- She did great for Scream,.but in Smile it felt like she was having problems keeping up.
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  2. #3272
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    Malto Thoris
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    It's a bit of necro but here's some food for thought.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rail/#lightbox

    Probably the big thing that she has so many words referring her too with Third Promise and Lamatyi to where she's mention 468 times through the story and let's not forget that some of the dawnservant can be attributed to her as well.

    Also "Thancred and Uriganger will be key characters!"

    Doesn't show up at all in this list.
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  3. #3273
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLSmoothJ View Post
    A statement which involves the VA expressing her opinion of a song while accusing those hating it of being racist, but done in a way where it's not as obvious so many people wouldn't notice. That is what is called "Slick Dissing," and that's what she did.
    Wait you think its not obvious what they're saying?
    I'm not seeing the slick. I'm just seeing a "IF U HATE IT UR RACIST" with more words.
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  4. #3274
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo View Post
    To be fair, I dislike Smile because it was overused and used in the wrong spots. For the Coronation? Sure, why not, it's a Disney moment and people are happy. Building a train? Anything but that song pls. Also I felt bad for the singer- She did great for Scream,.but in Smile it felt like she was having problems keeping up.
    No way...she sung Scream? I loved scream...
    That train scene felt so bizarre..
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    Eyestrain thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/501914-Dawntrail-Graphics-Update-Eye-Strain

  5. #3275
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It's a bit of necro but here's some food for thought.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rail/#lightbox...
    I find it funny that Bakool Ja Ja's most used word is Gehehehe, Otis' having a 3-way tie with one of his just being Hahaha, and fucking Mablu having more lines then Zoraal Ja and Bakool Ja Ja.

    But looking at this info, if it's accurate anyway: the fact Wuk Lamat has almost triple the amount of "count of lines" along with about 2.5 times the amount of "count of words" then Erenville, who already has a pretty sizeable lead over 3rd place Krile is just...disappointing. They really did just kind of go completely all in on her given they made an entire expansion essentially be completely dependent on whether or not people do ultimately like Wuk Lamat and that is...certainly a decision to have made.
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    Dawntrail did you dirty girl, it did you dirty.

  6. #3276
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    Something else I should probably point out is that while we already have her name proper, Third Promise and Lamayti as other references for her. Let's not forget Dawnservant and Vow of Resolve as well. I think that would probably be about at least 500 times that Wuk is being referred to during the whole msq and people say it takes about 21 hours to do all of dawntrail's story. That would be Wuk get's referenced at least once every 2 and a half minutes. Heck even in the reddit thread, people who liked her at first said they were outright sick of her by the time of heritage found and how much they hope to not see her any more after the vanilla was done.

    Edit: Of the characters in that list as well, Erenville, Krile, Koana, Alphinaud, Mablu, and Gulool Ja Ja all have her name or one of her titles as one of their most used words is also another issue as well.
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    Last edited by Maltothoris; 01-06-2025 at 08:52 AM.

  7. #3277
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZXN View Post
    I find it funny that Bakool Ja Ja's most used word is Gehehehe, Otis' having a 3-way tie with one of his just being Hahaha, and fucking Mablu having more lines then Zoraal Ja and Bakool Ja Ja.

    But looking at this info, if it's accurate anyway: the fact Wuk Lamat has almost triple the amount of "count of lines" along with about 2.5 times the amount of "count of words" then Erenville, who already has a pretty sizeable lead over 3rd place Krile is just...disappointing. They really did just kind of go completely all in on her given they made an entire expansion essentially be completely dependent on whether or not people do ultimately like Wuk Lamat and that is...certainly a decision to have made.
    Can we take a moment to appreciate that the most used word/phrase for second place Erenville and third place Krile is "Wuk Lamat?" Hell, even Allisae uses Wuk Lamat (albeit as the familiar variant of her name) as Third Most. You need to go all the way down to Cachuia for Wuk to not be involved in the top three words used.
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  8. #3278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It's a bit of necro but here's some food for thought.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rail/#lightbox

    Probably the big thing that she has so many words referring her too with Third Promise and Lamatyi to where she's mention 468 times through the story and let's not forget that some of the dawnservant can be attributed to her as well.

    Also "Thancred and Uriganger will be key characters!"

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    I'd love to see that analysis done on Stormblood since Wuk gets compared to Lyse so much. We traveled with Lyse but SB was much more of an ensemble focus and I bet the numbers would be a lot more even and spread out, which could be great to compare against the imbalance in Dawntrail.
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  9. #3279
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    People comparing Lyse to Wuk Lamat really dont know what they are talking about, to be honest. Other than ''female lead that I dislike''.

    Wuk Lamat gets too much dialogue and thats about it, but also the loudest haters of her are mostly transphobes that are grabbing into any issue, no matter how minor or non-existent. People are expecting way too much emotional payoff and ''epic'' moments out of DT. The devs said like add nauseum that DT was going to be the ARR of a new arc - wanting DT to hit the same highs that ShB/EW is not only delusional but also its not sustainable. WoW suffers of this, the constant power scaling has been awful for the game's story.

    Also? People need to get over themselves a bit too. EW and ShB also had cooldown moments that ''wasted your time''.

    Lyse as a whole was a terrible character because she becomes the spotlight of the Ala Mhigo arc at the cost of literally everyone else. This is specially bad when you notice that Lyse, who gets told that she doesnt have the right to be the hero and force people to fight for her ideals back in Doma, ends up doing exactly that in Ala Mhigo... where like 3-4 characters (all darker skinned, too) get killed off or sidelined to try to make Lyse the practically queen of Ala Mhigo.

    There is a reason why the patch MSQ redeemed Lyse by demoting her to just A leader of Ala Migho, focusing more on Raubahn as the more de facto leader of Ala Mhigo.
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  10. #3280
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    You could say she Wuk'd your world.

    *Throws taco and runs away*
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