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  1. #111
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    Garruss's Avatar
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    Shayla Shayla
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    Shiva
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    Ninja Lv 100
    It's the nature of MMO's we level past the old content. I see no issue with people going into the old content unsynced. Raiders don't care about the older content anyway since it's always onto the new raid. So why not let people go into those old ones unsynced to see them and get the rewards?
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  2. #112
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    It does suck that Savage fights are made obsolete upon the next expansion's release, and their rewards devalued. They rightfully don't allow this for Ultimates, so why should they for Savage?

    At the very least, completing duties unsynced should not grant achievements.
    Why? What exactly is it hurting? Raiders get the gear and achievements first. Others can unsync it later and get the gear as glam or achievements. It keeps interest in the content going after it's current.
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  3. #113
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    Underscore's Avatar
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    Exia Lupus
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    Spriggan
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Why? What exactly is it hurting? Raiders get the gear and achievements first. Others can unsync it later and get the gear as glam or achievements. It keeps interest in the content going after it's current.
    If by "the content" you mean cheesing/skipping it, then sure. It's hurting the value of the achievements and other rewards. Even if you let the gear and mount slide, why should achievements be given if you're not really beating the challenge? It completely defeats the point of achievements as a concept.
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    Bring back 6.0 Dragoon.

  4. #114
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    NaoSen's Avatar
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    Nao Sen
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    If by "the content" you mean cheesing/skipping it, then sure. It's hurting the value of the achievements and other rewards. Even if you let the gear and mount slide, why should achievements be given if you're not really beating the challenge? It completely defeats the point of achievements as a concept.
    You don't get titles for completing savage, the only place people congregate is cities and you cant use mounts there. There's literally nothing to show off the achievements from savage.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    You don't get titles for completing savage, the only place people congregate is cities and you cant use mounts there. There's literally nothing to show off the achievements from savage.
    Technically Delubrum Savage gives a title lol
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  6. #116
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    If by "the content" you mean cheesing/skipping it, then sure. It's hurting the value of the achievements and other rewards. Even if you let the gear and mount slide, why should achievements be given if you're not really beating the challenge? It completely defeats the point of achievements as a concept.
    I haven't done Extreme Primals seriously in years unless they give some temporary BiS piece for Savage. For mount farming purposes, I always wait to usync them. I don't even do some of them on patch.
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    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  7. #117
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    Blinkxz Bloodrage
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    Exodus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    How dare other players play the game in a way that doesn't effect me at at all. While I can see where OP is coming from this is a non issue.
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  8. #118
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Underscore View Post
    If by "the content" you mean cheesing/skipping it, then sure. It's hurting the value of the achievements and other rewards. Even if you let the gear and mount slide, why should achievements be given if you're not really beating the challenge? It completely defeats the point of achievements as a concept.
    Because things change. Should I be angry people can get crafting and gathering achievements easier than they did back when I started in ARR? No, that's silly. Same for being mad someone else can get an achievement later if they unsync Savage. If someone wants it right away, they go do Savage on content. It doesn't give a title, but even if it did, it doesn't devalue the time spent doing something when it was current. Nobody can ever take that away from someone. Why waste energy on what someone accomplishes after you do?
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  9. #119
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    The bigger issue is that they cannot make content longer lasting, so by the time it comes around to being able to unsync it, the fight is actually practically irrelevant content-wise anyway..

    Like to the people that view this as an issue, can you sit here with a straight face and tell me that doing raids from several expansions ago holds any relevance, that you would actually do it outside of your own pre-formed MINE party, or that you would actually give anyone serious thought or consideration if they cleared a fight on-level that is several expansions old.

    Maybe if they can make content long lasting, but they cannot... The fundamental design paradigm of this game doesn't permit it, with the exception of ultimate, and that is only largely because it serves as a capstone difficulty, versus, doing extreme or savage which is largely just a transitional difficulty.

    Even PF MINE parties take ages to fill, and that would still be the case even with the removal of unsync..
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 03-12-2025 at 04:16 AM.

  10. #120
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    Nero-Voidstails's Avatar
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    not gonna lie tho if they do that I just see no point on staying because of how hard it is to find a static with my work schedule so they really cannot do such or you tell me I have to DC transfer to maybe have a chance to do thing and going to eu when I am in Canada would also make no sense
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