"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[TBerry]

But isn't a single pack tank, who does not pick up aggro when others pull letting the group wipe, themselves forcing others to play the way they want over the interest of the rest of the group? Let's face it, the main problem with the ypyt mindset is mostly one of ego and not "the best interest of the group".

You can't always get it your way, some tanks are just slower than others. Suck it up.
Sometimes MMO and roulette experiences aren't that great. Yet many have made it to endgame without skipping.

[MicahZerrshia]

You can't always get it your way, some tanks are just slower than others. Suck it up.

If the tank speaks up and says, "Hey I am new, can we please slow down" or if the healer is new and learning. Completely different story. But if you want to hold up the entire group because you are on such an ego trip that you refuse to do the job that you easily can with literally no change to anything you are doing, just because it is someone else doing the thing instead of you, that is a you problem. And maybe you need to suck it up, cause you cannot always have your way either. No matter how entitled to dominating a party you believe yourself to be.

[TBerry]

If the tank speaks up and says, Hey I am new, can we please slow down" or if the healer is new and learning. Completely different story. But if you want to hold up the entire group because you are on such an ego trip that you refuse to do the job that you easily can with literally no change to anything you are doing, just because it is someone else doing the thing instead of you, that is a you problem. And maybe you need to suck it up, cause you cannot always have your way either. No matter how entitled to dominating a party you believe yourself to be.

This post just shows you can't suck it up, because clearly you can't handle a few bumps in roulette.

[MicahZerrshia]

This post just shows you can't suck it up, because clearly you can't handle a few bumps in roulette.

lol ok. /patshead

[TBerry]

There is no proof you actually take your own advice.

I still think you're (general you not you specifically) making excuses for abusive behaviour.

[Rin_Sato]

you play a multiplayer game with many people you shouldn't force other people to play the way you want it that's all there is to it

What? Who's forcing who?
The people who refuse to play the game or the people who are willing to accommodate different playstyles?

[Mistress_Irika]

I honestly don't care how easy it is with wall to wall pulls these days. To me, ego is not an issue unless the intent is there to get the other puller intentionally killed. Accommodations are. I probably would have been more accepting of the wall to wall pulls that people do today if it was explained that this is what we're now going to do. I probably would of been more accepting of this if people asked if we can start pulling bigger mobs. I never got the message. One day I woke up, and all of a sudden it's an expectation that everyone runs all dungeons like this for time. To me, there was no consideration whatsoever which was a huge turnoff for me. If I someday decide to go ahead and relearn healing this is the type of environment I'm going to be expected to be playing in. With the talk of removing resurrection from summoner and red mage next expansion running dungeons is literally going to feel no different than playing the deleted feast where everyone is searching for only competent players since a healer dying in that future scenario is only going to lead the group to immediately wipe since there's no killing bosses without them (Don't ask. I play too much pvp.). I don't see myself playing all roles with that expectation which is why I'm keeping far away from the tank and healer roles, healer especially. It's just not worth the stress learning to keep people alive in a big crowd knowing that one slip up could mean wiping. I probably sound very crazy saying all of this despite the tank and healer roles becoming very easy and having the tools to deal with this. I just don't have that confidence to perform well with healing and may take a very long time to get.

[Supersnow845]

You can't always get it your way, some tanks are just slower than others. Suck it up.
Sometimes MMO and roulette experiences aren't that great. Yet many have made it to endgame without skipping.

I mean as with every comment like this you can basically reverse this as an argument against the tank

“You won’t always get people so willing to go slow for you suck it up and go faster”

Respect for other players time here is a two way street but people love to pretend like “respect” means “go only at the speed of the slowest person”

[Mawlzy]

I mean as with every comment like this you can basically reverse this as an argument against the tank

“You won’t always get people so willing to go slow for you suck it up and go faster”

Respect for other players time here is a two way street but people love to pretend like “respect” means “go only at the speed of the slowest person”

Of course. It's impossible to go faster than the slowest person.

[Red-thunder]

You can't always get it your way, some tanks are just slower than others. Suck it up.
Sometimes MMO and roulette experiences aren't that great. Yet many have made it to endgame without skipping.

Maybe we need some standards injected back into video gaming in general lmao