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    I thought people were complaining about this game because all the jobs are homogenized? But yeah, the tool tips are trash on explaining on what some abilities do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFJerrySo View Post
    I thought people were complaining about this game because all the jobs are homogenized? But yeah, the tool tips are trash on explaining on what some abilities do.

    I mean the “tooltips are terrible at explaining the jobs and when you don’t understand the job and therefore play it incorrectly it can feel kinda unique” isn’t really an argument the jobs aren’t homogenised
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean the “tooltips are terrible at explaining the jobs and when you don’t understand the job and therefore play it incorrectly it can feel kinda unique” isn’t really an argument the jobs aren’t homogenised
    The argument is, if all the jobs play the same, then there should be no issues with tool tips as you should be able to relate one from one to to another from another job, therefore, if you have trouble with one tool tip, you should have trouble with the equivalent tooltip on another jobs, as they are the same. Since this is not the case, the jobs aren't homogenised. Which is true to an extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    The argument is, if all the jobs play the same, then there should be no issues with tool tips as you should be able to relate one from one to to another from another job, therefore, if you have trouble with one tool tip, you should have trouble with the equivalent tooltip on another jobs, as they are the same. Since this is not the case, the jobs aren't homogenised. Which is true to an extent.
    Most people that are incompetent on one class, are usually also incompetent on any other class they play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Most people that are incompetent on one class, are usually also incompetent on any other class they play.
    The original claim made no reference to how competent a person is at their job, just their ability to understand tooltips. It should go without saying that. just because you can read and understand the tooltips for a job, doesn't mean you are competent in that job.

    Since competency has no relevance to the original claim, there is no reason to bring it up. The original claim was, if you can understand the tooltips for one job, you can understand them all, since every job plays the same, which is a common complaint that some people have. So, by that logic, if there is a job that has a tooltip that you do not understand, and it is unique to that job, by definition, that job plays differently to the other jobs, even if it is a small one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Since competency has no relevance to the original claim, there is no reason to bring it up. The original claim was, if you can understand the tooltips for one job, you can understand them all, since every job plays the same, which is a common complaint that some people have. So, by that logic, if there is a job that has a tooltip that you do not understand, and it is unique to that job, by definition, that job plays differently to the other jobs, even if it is a small one.
    hm i would have to disagree that all jobs play the same, i mean there is a core structure how jobs in this game work with combos and rotations, but a pictomancer and a blackmage is VERY different in playstyle even though they are both casters.
    I must admit when i leveled pictomancer it really took me a while to understand all the skills and how they interact, but that is also a problem when you start at job on a high level and must figure out which skill has to go to what hotkey too.
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