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  1. #21
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    yesnt's Avatar
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    Giddy Moonshine
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    Sophia
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    Bard Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    then queue direct for it there you have your gameplay, DAILYS are there for 3 reasons, Gil, Experience and Stones any kind, not for 40min alliance raids
    But I want the Gil, Experience and Stones too.
    (3)

  2. #22
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Counterpoint: I've landed a handful of lower level dungeons in regular roulettes that I hadn't been inside since the graphics update and WOW do they look different and improved. So at least in regular dungeons you have some pretty scenery to gawk at while you press your 5 available buttons.

    As for the CT raid series, you get those because they're mandatory content and new players have to do it. I haven't had a run since 7.0 where there hasn't been at least one new player bonus in alliance roulette. I found out by accident that they removed the ability to cheese iLVL in alliance roulette; you have to have a bare minimum level of gear once you hit each of the breakpoints of 60-70-80-90 and it will not let you even queue up unless you're at it. (Cue my hurriedly crafting my viper some bridge gear until I could access the Riversbreath stuff I'd held onto. Accidentally got rid of my 90 Scouting gear...)
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  3. #23
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Or they could just address the root causes of this issue...
    I agree - Push up the difficulty on CT and Void Arc Alliance raids to be roughly 25-30'ish minutes long by default.
    (1)

  4. #24
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Sagittarius
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    I agree - Push up the difficulty on CT and Void Arc Alliance raids to be roughly 25-30'ish minutes long by default.
    Rescaled they will be that long anyway, but that isn't the only issue, really.

    Due to it being mandatory for the story-- and the only one that is-- The roulette leans heavily to this, since people will have to unlock it. So even if you make it more engaging by actually seeing the mechanics, people will get just as sick of them with that as what they are now.
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  5. #25
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I only begrudgingly do it at the start of an expansion, then I go 2 years of not touching the roulette (or MSQ). Tomes and exp are easy to come by.
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  6. #26
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    Unpopular opinion, but some of us play for the sake of gameplay.
    I will be honest, there are times CT feels more engaging than Nier raids, Nier raids have this issue where the enemy HP bars just feel too big, and there are several portions of those raids where the boss just stands there doing nothing besides autos for way too long at time while their HP bars whittles down at such a glacial pace I can feel it on my skin, I sincerely feel those raids would become significantly faster, more fun, and even harder, if you slashed their HP bars by like 25-40%, and increased their mechanics frequency by a proportional amount.
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  7. #27
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I'm barely even joking at this point...
    Sorry you don't get a free pass to leave a duty without a penalty. Don't queue for the roulette if it bothers you that much.
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  8. #28
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    yesnt's Avatar
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    Giddy Moonshine
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    Sophia
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    Bard Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    I will be honest, there are times CT feels more engaging than Nier raids, Nier raids have this issue where the enemy HP bars just feel too big, and there are several portions of those raids where the boss just stands there doing nothing besides autos for way too long at time while their HP bars whittles down at such a glacial pace I can feel it on my skin, I sincerely feel those raids would become significantly faster, more fun, and even harder, if you slashed their HP bars by like 25-40%, and increased their mechanics frequency by a proportional amount.
    I do not disagree that Nier could be harder, but that doesn't make CT any less of a snooze fest. More, faster mechanics would make me happy in any alliance raid.
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  9. #29
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    Nadja Zielle
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Unpopular opinion, but honestly I will stay for CT raids, Mhach, Ivalice etc but I leave the moment I queue into Nier raids. I just do not enjoy the aesthetic, the glams, the characters, the story, etc etc etc, esp the one that is just grey boxes. I also just do not care for the Nier games mostly due to the aforementioned reasons as well. After hearing so much praise for it I tried automata and was just not impressed, even as someone who loves philosophy so much I would take philosophy classes for fun in college. Leveling an alt right now and am just not going to unlock them. I will happily sleep my way through a CT raid, rather than stare at the yuck that is the Nier raids

    If anything I wish I could just block Nier out of my queue more than anything, we really should have an option to exclude 3 dungeons or raids per roulette, story not included since it only has 3. That way I can also not have to deal with 1000 maws, good king mog and the new one that was ruined at the end by the dumb cat lady. Others I will begrudgingly stay in but that last one I also drop the moment I enter too just because I hate her so much that it...it...the f...it...flam...flame...flames, on the sides of my face
    (2)
    Last edited by MicahZerrshia; 02-10-2025 at 02:41 AM.

  10. #30
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    Wondrous Waifu
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Only problem with CT is people being too scared to tank Bone Dragon in the middle.
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