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    Quote Originally Posted by Clockworks View Post
    I absolutely love how you conveniently ignore auto demolition of houses.
    It's not that I ignore it. I literally don't have a house, so it doesn't even cross my mind. Lots of people do not have a house. Your problem is kinda limited to people who do like I assume you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    Except Netflix does not ask you to pay 40$ every 2.5 years to upgrade your Netflix application to keep experiencing newly released series.
    While true, that fee is primarily for the "new game" / MSQ aspect which is why I compared it to buying a new game instead.

    But the business models and their problems are mostly similar other than that. You subscribe for the content you want on the month it releases, binge watch / consume it, then unsubscribe. That's pretty much the business model they're both using.

    Is the business model good? That's up for debate. Many people will similarly say "Netflix has lackluster content, you're just subscribing for the 1 good show" - a familiar argument made about FFXIV.

    Both have a lot of other content/shows too, but it's stuff the people complaining don't care for, therefore they don't count it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It's not that I ignore it. I literally don't have a house, so it doesn't even cross my mind. Lots of people do not have a house. Your problem is kinda limited to people who do like I assume you do.

    While true, that fee is primarily for the "new game" / MSQ aspect which is why I compared it to buying a new game instead.

    But the business models and their problems are mostly similar other than that. You subscribe for the content you want on the month it releases, binge watch / consume it, then unsubscribe. That's pretty much the business model they're both using.

    Is the business model good? That's up for debate. Many people will similarly say "Netflix has lackluster content, you're just subscribing for the 1 good show" - a familiar argument made about FFXIV.

    Both have a lot of other content/shows too, but it's stuff the people complaining don't care for, therefore they don't count it.
    “Limited to people who do”

    You know there are 780,000 plots in the game right? If we say ~~~80% are occupied by a unique player who doesn’t want to lose them that’s half the games current playerbase based on the lucky brancho population crash who doesn’t want to lose them. That isn’t an insignificant number just because it doesn’t apply to you
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 02-08-2025 at 06:07 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    But the business models and their problems are mostly similar other than that. You subscribe for the content you want on the month it releases, binge watch / consume it, then unsubscribe. That's pretty much the business model they're both using.
    Naah Fam can't agree with that, really. Their spiel of "you can unsubscribe" sounds more along the lines of "if you take a break, getting back to where things are is pretty easy", not a "we plan for you to cancel your subscription with only playing 1-2 months per year."
    In a live service game, one with a subscription cost, any good business wants to keep your subscription rolling. Same with FFXIV. A constant huge shift in player numbers is poison for infrastructure planning and financial security.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    In a live service game, one with a subscription cost, any good business wants to keep your subscription rolling. Same with FFXIV. A constant huge shift in player numbers is poison for infrastructure planning and financial security.
    I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.
    Taking a break =!= cancelling your subscription, its not a difficult concept to grasp. You can take a break and still keep paying, you can take breaks for shorter than 4 weeks where cancelling your sub isn't even an option. It is said in such a way to seem benevolent.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.
    Actions speak louder than words.
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