Give Dawntrail the ARR post patch treatment

[Yoshihara]

There are too many lines that repeat themselves in the MSQ, even voiced ones. A lot of the MSQ quests could do with trimming significantly in terms of go find 3 people, point at robot for the blindingly obvious, listen to how everyone is a sterile clone of each other and echoes each other's opinions.

It's going to go down in history, or already has gone down in history as the expansion people will struggle to advertise to new players to try and grin and bear through, EVEN if hypothetically the next expansion is amazing.

For the sake of helping the game in the long run, I am suggesting to the team to work on trying to cut as much as possible out of this expansion that simply isn't necessary, or repeated dialogue. There is a lot of fat to trim, I don't think anyone, including people who somehow enjoyed this expansion would miss it given how much of it repeats itself or doesn't contribute to the story.

Maybe from less exposure to the characters as a result of a shorter expansion, people would have less of a vitriolic sentiment towards the characters introduced in Dawntrail, thus easing the burden future expansions would have to carry.

[Hallarem]

"If you like story and discovering new things, and don't really care about gameplay, gearing and class identity in the end I recommend this game."

If they continue the story like they have, you can scratch the story out. Endwalker and Dawntrails fumbles are very close to soiling the rest like Game of Thrones season 8 did.

It will devolve into an actual FF-themepark and not an MMO, where you can just nostalgia goggle search for names from different FF*s (doesnt feel like an MMO anyway, as half the systems of an MMO are missing)

[Exmo]

No thank you, the story is fine as is. Please disregard.

[ovIm]

As much as I agree that the DT MSQ is hot garbage, I'd rather the devs focus their time and effort on other issues that plague the game. A fix for DT's MSQ could just as well be a new entry point for characters that allows players to skip the hundreds of hours of cutscene required to be able to play with their friends, for example.

[Clockworks]

No thank you, the story is fine as is. Please disregard.

It's okay to not have good taste, just dont think of it as what the majority of people think.

[Kaurhz]

No thank you, the story is fine as is. Please disregard.

Dawntrail is not fine LOL... Nothing about it is fine...

[Jeeqbit]

They already got the message about the repeated lines.

They were intentional to explain the story and make sure people understand what's going on. Especially since there are a lot of players that return after many years and don't really remember anything.

I agree that they were obnoxious to me in some cases, especially in Heritage Found where it's very easy to figure out what is going on when you have the context of Shadowbringers, which everybody does. We went to Yyasulani which was supposed to be fully built up. It looks decades old. 2+2. Time has progressed by decades in this bubble. They slowly figure it out when all the scions there would know mostly what is going on. Then the round table meeting later on repeats everything that had just been said.

Acting like it's harder to get through than any other expansion is silly though. I not only did Dawntrail, but all of its sidequests - and I got through it. It was just like any other expansion. It was better than ARR because we had a mount from the start and were able to fly after completing the zone's story events.

There are also a lot of intriguing parts - for example, meeting the legendary Ketenramm who was assumed to be long dead and merely a historical figure. Mamool Ja being more than just NPCs you 1-shot at Upper La Noscea. A home for the Hrothgar. Urqopacha and meeting the giants... who we previously knew as things we kill quick in Copperbell Mines, so understanding their lore was nice. Visiting Shaaloani and the ceruleum problem we'd heard about in the Blue Mage quests.

[Maltothoris]

The big thing I want them to figure out is character prioritization. Wuk got way too much (alongside the twins) while Krile, Thancred, Urianger, Zoraal Ja, and to a lesser extent, Erenville, got way too little.

[Jeeqbit]

The big thing I want them to figure out is character prioritization. Wuk got way too much (alongside the twins) while Krile, Thancred, Urianger, Zoraal Ja, and to a lesser extent, Erenville, got way too little.

I saw in one interview that they will probably stop including characters if they won't get development.

Their dilemma was "include all the scions in case people like them and want to see them" and "don't include the ones that aren't getting developed that expansion" so they will probably go with the second one next time.

I think from their perspective, they can't develop too many characters in the same expansion so they got left out mostly.

[Maltothoris]

I mean, that's fine but Thancred and Urianger were literally on the dawntrial character poster and on the website as key characters.