Finally Understanding SE's Decision Making (And Why It Won't Change)

[Exmo]

What's going to be a big show on just how little innovation, improvement or care has been put into the Console/PC versions of FF is the mobile version, it looks like the studio who made that looked at what the players frustrations over the last 11 years and went "Is this possible to implement/avoid on mobile" and if they could, did.

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

[NaoSen]

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

Quality of life is possible to add, and some systems should have been outright overhauled by now. Be it as small as a shorter loot time out (3 minutes on mobile vs 5 on pc) or a roll on all button, better friends' system (Two-way among other things) and glamour system being larger changes but still doable, better map, even treasure map location finding is done nicer on mobile,
I mean a lot of modders have had stuff for years that improve Quality of Life, so definitely no excuse for the game not to have it.

Two way friends list ? Got to play on mobile to get that.

[Ranhansha]

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

*Points to the forums*
*Pushes the white knights away*
*Points to the forums again*

[Exmo]

*Points to the forums*
*Pushes the white knights away*
*Points to the forums again*

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Maybe you could communicate as if you're not in the internet in 2005?

[Ranhansha]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Maybe you could communicate as if you're not in the internet in 2005?

Nah, if you couldn't understand that I don't think you'd get the simplicity of what I meant even if I explained it to you.

[Videatur]

This doesn't make sense. The mobile version has a "design doc" compiled across ten years worth of evolution and feedback. The PC version which is its point of reference had no idea what it needed to look like ten years from its original (difficult) development, so obviously could not plan for it. It's totally unreasonable to put their differences down to the attitude of the devs.

As much as this statement may make sense, it does not find it in the facts. Yes the game is 10 years old but 10 years ago today there was WoW Warlords of Dreanor and so many other MMO experiences (in 2010 there was Cataclysm) and if we have to talk about QoL that existed 20 years ago but still don't exist now in FF14 (friend list privacy, infinite chat tabs, Chat Bubble, decent Crafting) I'd say they didn't need a mobile game to apply quality of life solutions that have existed in other games for 21 years.

It could have been done before ARR was released.

[Exmo]

As much as this statement may make sense, it does not find it in the facts. Yes the game is 10 years old but 10 years ago today there was WoW Warlords of Dreanor and so many other MMO experiences (in 2010 there was Cataclysm) and if we have to talk about QoL that existed 20 years ago but still don't exist now in FF14 (friend list privacy, infinite chat tabs, Chat Bubble, decent Crafting) I'd say they didn't need a mobile game to apply quality of life solutions that have existed in other games for 21 years.

It could have been done before ARR was released.

You're not taking into account the conditions under which ARR was developed. The fact that they made 2.0 at all in that timeframe while also maintaining and supporting 1.0 to the extent that they managed is a great achievement. I know people like to drag the game these days but let's not be revisionist here

[Videatur]

You're not taking into account the conditions under which ARR was developed. The fact that they made 2.0 at all in that timeframe while also maintaining and supporting 1.0 to the extent that they managed is a great achievement. I know people like to drag the game these days but let's not be revisionist here

No one intends to change the course of history, ARR came out on 27 August 2013, it is 6 February 2025 and the things I mentioned are not yet there. They have had 12 years since ARR came out I think the crunch from 1.0 to 2.0 is long over.

There is a tendency in this community, as I saw, to justify things that in other games would immediately be taken very badly in general. Perhaps it is time to change the mental structure of how one supports a game in light of the recent gaming industry, times change -quote.