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  1. #11
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HunkyMarauder View Post
    aka incompetence
    Basically that. It would help if they just proactively went and tried to hire all the modders and tool developers. Because they have had these problems for 12 years now:
    • Armoire issues.
    • Glamour Dresser issues.
    • A housing crisis.
    • Problematic buff and debuff limits that break rotations.
    • Slow packet and battle processing code that 2013 multi-threaded hardware probably shouldn't struggle with, nevermind 2025 hardware.
    • "Difficulty carrying things with the player" across physical servers.
    • Inability to revisit linkshells, such that they created an entirely different version of them called CWLS.
    • Daily DDoS of their NA servers that, while I admit are difficult to prevent, there are ways to think outside the box like creating multiple routes to the server and proactively diverting player clients to a different route when attacks are happening.
    In addition, the struggle with viera and hrothgar hats for half of the game's existence now.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Basically that. It would help if they just proactively went and tried to hire all the modders and tool developers. Because they have had these problems for 12 years now:
    • Armoire issues.
    • Glamour Dresser issues.
    • A housing crisis.
    • Problematic buff and debuff limits that break rotations.
    • Slow packet and battle processing code that 2013 multi-threaded hardware probably shouldn't struggle with, nevermind 2025 hardware.
    • "Difficulty carrying things with the player" across physical servers.
    • Inability to revisit linkshells, such that they created an entirely different version of them called CWLS.
    • Daily DDoS of their NA servers that, while I admit are difficult to prevent, there are ways to think outside the box like creating multiple routes to the server and proactively diverting player clients to a different route when attacks are happening.
    In addition, the struggle with viera and hrothgar hats for half of the game's existence now.
    Yeah but they are completely incapable of hiring anyone who isn't Japanese because apparently the language barrier is too strong lmao

    One wonders how studios like CD Projekt Red manages to communicate internally with people from all over Europe.

    Yet another self-own by the Japanese resistance to globalization.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Well yes, I've discussed this with people and there is a reason it's called a "themepark MMO" and that Yoshi-P has said he views himself like a government and the player as the citizens. I recently described it as a "pick and mix" https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...00#post6657400



    Technically, it is the most packed expansion ever, if you include everything that is coming in the patches. But as my image shows, every piece of content only lasts 5-20 minutes per attempt, so on that basis people will dismiss all the content as nothing. It's mostly like this because they don't want it to be too much of a burden for casual players that just login for a few days for a patch, then move onto the next game, and that's pretty obvious really.

    They've not used the "it's too much money" excuse as far as I know and even express a willingness to go over budget. They are almost constantly hiring developers in some department for FFXIV specifically (I know because I check).

    The issue is that they think things are "too hard" or "a lot of work", including many things that any programmer, with any codebase, could achieve in a short period of time. There are so many ways to think outside the box if there are infrastructure issues. It comes down to either that their team is too divided up so one person can't just implement a feature on their own causing it not to be implemented at all, or that some of them don't believe they can do things that they, in fact, can.
    The problem isn't that content is designed to be drop in/drop out and doesn't force you to stay glued to it for hours on end. The problem is that so much of the content either doesn't allow you to continue playing after 10 minutes and/or is fully completed too quickly. It feels less like a theme park and more like a mobile game that wants me to swipe my credit card for more spins.
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  4. #14
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    Sugar And'spice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Basically that. It would help if they just proactively went and tried to hire all the modders and tool developers. Because they have had these problems for 12 years now:
    • Armoire issues.
    • Glamour Dresser issues.
    • A housing crisis.
    • Problematic buff and debuff limits that break rotations.
    • Slow packet and battle processing code that 2013 multi-threaded hardware probably shouldn't struggle with, nevermind 2025 hardware.
    • "Difficulty carrying things with the player" across physical servers.
    • Inability to revisit linkshells, such that they created an entirely different version of them called CWLS.
    • Daily DDoS of their NA servers that, while I admit are difficult to prevent, there are ways to think outside the box like creating multiple routes to the server and proactively diverting player clients to a different route when attacks are happening.
    In addition, the struggle with viera and hrothgar hats for half of the game's existence now.
    I've also been angry that they don't hire them or even just freelance them... they're extremely talented and dedicated people with real genuine passion for making xiv better. Yet blaming the language barrier time and time again.. when they have TWO translators. As for redemption. No. These devs will kill their own game like everything else se kills.

    When ffxiv is a husk of itself se might legit go bankrupt. Because let's be real the already played the ff7 card and it's not popular. They can't just keep playing it forever
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    Last edited by sindriiisgaming; 02-02-2025 at 02:45 PM.

  5. #15
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    You compare it to Warframe like Warframe is better but what you may not know is that their "expansion" equivalent is basically a 2-3 hour story mission released once every few years. And then there's a new game mode or two once a year to grind for hours doing the same stuff on repeat. Don't act like FF14 is somehow committing a cardinal sin by either not being able to or choosing not to produce as much content as people are demanding. Running an MMO is extremely demanding, coding is a nightmare even without a deadline and include a high quality standard and online components as well as having to put all that through several profit driven executives, you'll understand why 9/10 MMOs end up failing within 10 years.

    I don't understand why some people can't accept this. It's one thing having 5-10 years to produce a high budget, massive open world game for a huge audience, but FFXIV gets 2 years tops to actually work on an expansion and that is while producing endgame content for the previous one, and they still manage to make the new expansion big enough to be its own game. That in itself is a miracle and we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all (looking at you WoW), but some people have cultivated this discourse that FF14 is somehow a terrible game because the developers either cannot or choose not to produce content that they can spend all hours of the day on and not feel disappointed once. It's a video game! If you aren't happy just play something else instead of ranting and casting judgement on something you know nothing about.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Basically that. It would help if they just proactively went and tried to hire all the modders and tool developers. Because they have had these problems for 12 years now:
    • Armoire issues.
    • Glamour Dresser issues.
    • A housing crisis.
    • Problematic buff and debuff limits that break rotations.
    • Slow packet and battle processing code that 2013 multi-threaded hardware probably shouldn't struggle with, nevermind 2025 hardware.
    • "Difficulty carrying things with the player" across physical servers.
    • Inability to revisit linkshells, such that they created an entirely different version of them called CWLS.
    • Daily DDoS of their NA servers that, while I admit are difficult to prevent, there are ways to think outside the box like creating multiple routes to the server and proactively diverting player clients to a different route when attacks are happening.
    In addition, the struggle with viera and hrothgar hats for half of the game's existence now.
    I really wished they hired English game designers. And not the care bear type. The game of thrones type.

    The kind of people that are capable of killing off Wuk Lamat for being too naive, revert Koana into someone who doesn't throw their lives away for a dumb Bison, and as result of mamool ja not winning the throne throwing all of Tuliyollal into a civil war that sets the stage for Mamool Ja leading Besieged attacks against the capital city. Turning the entire world map of Yok Tural into a conquest type scenario where players need to get signet and keep control of the world map for additional benefits. adding needed gameplay to the overworld. It only makes sense as some of the contestants, namely Koana and Wuk brought foreigners to attempt to interfere in the very internal election process and it is a form a cheating because they were too weak to seize the throne by themselves and it was meant to result in chaos.

    Furthermore, The warrior of light, instead of being a hypocrite and pretending what they are doing is right or necessary admit they have to go into solution 9 and kill their leadership and shut down all their systems because they are planning on using our souls for their own convenience and it's a them or us scenario. No more apologies, or pretending they weren't people. It was outright murder but it had to be done to save our world.

    We need people with actual conviction and capable of making hard choices in this game. Everybody finds a compromise and lives somewhat happily ever after is not satisfying to anyone, it doesn't make a good story, and it definitely doesn't make for a good game.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    Running an MMO is extremely demanding
    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    If you aren't happy just play something else instead of ranting and casting judgement on something you know nothing about.
    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all
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    That in itself is a miracle
    Are you trying to artificially win a Bingo card or something?
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    You compare it to Warframe like Warframe is better but what you may not know is that their "expansion" equivalent is basically a 2-3 hour story mission released once every few years. And then there's a new game mode or two once a year to grind for hours doing the same stuff on repeat. Don't act like FF14 is somehow committing a cardinal sin by either not being able to or choosing not to produce as much content as people are demanding. Running an MMO is extremely demanding, coding is a nightmare even without a deadline and include a high quality standard and online components as well as having to put all that through several profit driven executives, you'll understand why 9/10 MMOs end up failing within 10 years.

    I don't understand why some people can't accept this. It's one thing having 5-10 years to produce a high budget, massive open world game for a huge audience, but FFXIV gets 2 years tops to actually work on an expansion and that is while producing endgame content for the previous one, and they still manage to make the new expansion big enough to be its own game. That in itself is a miracle and we should be grateful that we get a playable expansion or patch at all (looking at you WoW), but some people have cultivated this discourse that FF14 is somehow a terrible game because the developers either cannot or choose not to produce content that they can spend all hours of the day on and not feel disappointed once. It's a video game! If you aren't happy just play something else instead of ranting and casting judgement on something you know nothing about.
    How much copium have you been huffing holy shit I think it's time to cut you off.
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  9. #19
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    This community spent the last 9 years chasing off anybody who tried to criticize this game in the name of "positivity". That's what you get.


    Do you think that there is any redemption arc to be had here?
    As far as I'm concerned some new big dragon can come from Meracydia and raze everything to the ground again. Third time's the charm (maybe).
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    As long as people keep whiteknighting for them instead of demanding what they are owed for a monthly sub as MMO players. The game wont change.
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