I thought the solo duties were frustrating...

[Zakuyia]

Bro like being lvl 100 is hard.....

Your literally a veteran on battle field and this is hard my god XD im glad ur not playing in unreal and ex u would be holding ur team back.

Anyway here some tips to make thesr runs easier ao listen up and pay attention.

1. Learn your class that is the most important thing.

2. Meld your gear. Your low dps is also an added problem why fights take longer and u suffer longer.

3. Buy food that helps allot for your class.

4. Look at guides if needed.

5. Finally understand the name of mechanics to avoid them.

[Mikoko_Miko]

As a healer I feel the solo duties frustrating because NPCs are not in Party List. I'm a controller player and I can soft-target party members using D-pad in normal duties, but it is difficult for me to target non-party members without macros.

[Zakuyia]

As a healer I feel the solo duties frustrating because NPCs are not in Party List. I'm a controller player and I can soft-target party members using D-pad in normal duties, but it is difficult for me to target non-party members without macros.

Actually u can also use f1-f4 to target them I have tried it and party list works for that just fine

[Supersnow845]

Actually u can also use f1-f4 to target them I have tried it and party list works for that just fine

It depends on the quest

The older quests (like say the sub 60 job quests) you can’t target them properly on controller

[Moqi]

As a healer I feel the solo duties frustrating because NPCs are not in Party List. I'm a controller player and I can soft-target party members using D-pad in normal duties, but it is difficult for me to target non-party members without macros.

I have a custom filter for NPCs only and still target with the D-pad (left-right). It's not as quick as scrolling through the party list but it's still pretty quick.

[Zakuyia]

It depends on the quest

The older quests (like say the sub 60 job quests) you can’t target them properly on controller

I dont use a controller i use keyboard & mouse

[AllenThyl]

I've even stated in other parts that I still think the game can cater to the lowest denominator and disabled players by adding more support notably through the duty support system, where it would literally bother nobody.

And that is where we disagree, I don't think the game should cater to such a low denominator. For the simple fact that this is an MMO. It's popular to throw the "oh the dungeon will just take 2-3 minutes more" argument around, which when doing thousands of dungeons, adds up quite a lot of time for no good reason. Further, it's vastly underestimating how much an an impact just 2 barely functioning players can have. The dungeon won't take 2-3 minutes more, it will take 8 minutes more, or sometimes the dungeon will take half an hour because the group keeps wiping on the last boss in an expert dungeon because neither the tank nor the healer have managed learn anything despite a basegame and 5 expansions worth of content and double digit jobs at lvl 100. The difference between someone making a bit of an effort, and 100% savage level effort, is around 40-80%. The difference between "barely functioning" and "a bit of an effort" is 100-200%. That's what makes this all so infuriating. No one is asking for hyper optimized rotations in some dungeon content, but this expectation of having to have sympathy for people who are overwhelmed with 4 buttons and 3 mechanics in a solo duty is stretching any definition of tolerance. The point of any activity, is the activity itself. The point of tennis, is playing tennis. Someone who can't hold the rack, is unable to even tell the ball from the background, and has trouble just getting up from a chair to get to the court, is maybe trying to play the wrong sport. And it would be one heck of a weird discussion that somehow the rules of tennis should be changed, because that would just turn it into a different sport.

[Supersnow845]

I dont use a controller i use keyboard & mouse

And the person you replied to saying “use f1-f4” plays on controller

[Valence]

And that is where we disagree, I don't think the game should cater to such a low denominator. For the simple fact that this is an MMO. It's popular to throw the "oh the dungeon will just take 2-3 minutes more" argument around, which when doing thousands of dungeons, adds up quite a lot of time for no good reason. Further, it's vastly underestimating how much an an impact just 2 barely functioning players can have. The dungeon won't take 2-3 minutes more, it will take 8 minutes more, or sometimes the dungeon will take half an hour because the group keeps wiping on the last boss in an expert dungeon because neither the tank nor the healer have managed learn anything despite a basegame and 5 expansions worth of content and double digit jobs at lvl 100. The difference between someone making a bit of an effort, and 100% savage level effort, is around 40-80%. The difference between "barely functioning" and "a bit of an effort" is 100-200%. That's what makes this all so infuriating. No one is asking for hyper optimized rotations in some dungeon content, but this expectation of having to have sympathy for people who are overwhelmed with 4 buttons and 3 mechanics in a solo duty is stretching any definition of tolerance. The point of any activity, is the activity itself. The point of tennis, is playing tennis. Someone who can't hold the rack, is unable to even tell the ball from the background, and has trouble just getting up from a chair to get to the court, is maybe trying to play the wrong sport. And it would be one heck of a weird discussion that somehow the rules of tennis should be changed, because that would just turn it into a different sport.

That's nice and all but... why are we talking about dungeons taking 2-3 min more now? You're aware the quote you're replying to is literally about duty support, right?

( also if you're being that "infuriated", or mad, or whatever distress it causes you over an online game, maybe you have those anger issues checked? )

[Zakuyia]

And the person you replied to saying “use f1-f4” plays on controller

You can always hook up a keyboard to use.