I thought the solo duties were frustrating...

[Moqi]

They might find the endgame casual content boring, but casuals don't.

I'm a casual and I find it very boring. Casual doesn't mean braindead, I just don't care to commit more time to a single fight. You can still have challenging content that doesn't punish your learning phase too harshly and allows you to recover and puts more responsability on personal mechanics instead of body checks.

[Supersnow845]

It's quite clear the devs do see that demographic as more important. If this trend continues, it will lock out an increasing fraction of players. It is not a question of right or wrong. One path keeps a subset of players slightly happier. The other kicks people from the game. When that latter group includes friends I've played with for years here and elsewhere, I will complain. Noisily, as you've doubtless noticed.

What about people quit because the content they do is boring

[Arohk]

What about people quit because the content they do is boring

Sound stupid, but that happens a lot more than you think, especialy during MSQ because the game offers no challenge, i have had at least three frinds not getting bejond Stormblood because they got so bored.

[CidHeiral]

I have cleared it. The House Mother of my FC has not. She knows precisely what to do, and cannot do it fast enough, probably because very easy mode is borked.

Which part is she struggling with? Nothing in that fight happens particularly fast and on Very Easy she should be able to get nailed with multiple AOEs and live.

It's quite clear the devs do see that demographic as more important. If this trend continues, it will lock out an increasing fraction of players. It is not a question of right or wrong. One path keeps a subset of players slightly happier. The other kicks people from the game. When that latter group includes friends I've played with for years here and elsewhere, I will complain. Noisily, as you've doubtless noticed.

That "subset of players" is in truth the vast majority of players and their feedback on the changes has been resoundingly positive. The real subset is the small fraction of players who are brick walled by normal or very easy content, but even then they're only getting "kicked out of the game" if they choose to give up. I don't mean to sound harsh but if a paraplegic can do perfect runs of Sekiro and a literal blind man can win tournament matches of Street Fighter 6 then these people can clear normal mode MMO content if they really put their mind to it. There are plenty of resources and people out there willing to help as well.

[Valence]

But that's the thing, it doesn't matter, as long as it works. But in this case, it obviously doesn't work.

I'd be inclined to agree but you're forgetting that the player specifically mentioned their disabilities and why clicking works better and is preferable for them, yet people continue trying to tell them they're in the wrong...

I wonder if you’re also accidentally making things too hard by spreading yourself too thin mentally. There’s no time limit to kill the boss so you’re not obligated to hit the boss properly (or even at all) while doing mechanics that take a lot of focus for you. Even when there are time limits in more difficult raids, it’s normal for people to not worry about hitting the boss perfectly during a mechanic until after they’re gotten more comfortable doing it.

And then you'll have all those people that will scream after or during dungeon runs that and I quote the most usual lines "I'm paired with a curebot" or "My DPS are dealing less damage than the healer". There is no winning with this community.

The confusion mechanic really blows during that one DT dungeon that's the only mechanic that has made me rage quit a dungeon.

Not saying that you're not doing it or this will actually help you if you're not, but when confusion mechanics start, the best way to deal with them is to first stop moving, then small tap to move forward to do tiny steps until you're going into the right direction then you fully lock forward until you have to turn, then stop and repeat the process. Hope it helps...

Not gonna lie out of all the DDR mechanics this one is one I find amusing and mild, but I'd kill to have confusion debuffs back where they make you hit your allies with actual nasty auto attack damage.

People don’t complain about the MSQ content being boring they complain about the general endgame casual content being boring because they cater to people who can’t do the solo duties, that was basically the dev philosophy behind such heavy hitters as “fell court of Troia” and “thelia”

Not gonna lie this sometimes makes me wish the basic dungeon content was more difficult (but definitely casual), even the msq content, but either:

1) only on roulettes with cranked up difficulty

or

2) with duty support being the mode where it can just play itself for anyone to clear, and the possibility to bring your friends in duty support mode as well (like 2 players + 2 NPCs etc).

[Moqi]

And then you'll have all those people that will scream after or during dungeon runs that and I quote the most usual lines "I'm paired with a curebot" or "My DPS are dealing less damage than the healer". There is no winning with this community.

You can win plenty by specifically asking for help (PF, FC) insted of joining Duty Finder with random people when you know your playstyle is not how people commonly run dungeons just like everybody else does when they want to do something different than the "usual".

But everytime this is suggested it falls on deaf ears...

[Valence]

You can win plenty by specifically asking for help (PF, FC) insted of joining Duty Finder with random people when you know your playstyle is not how people commonly run dungeons just like everybody else does when they want to do something different than the "usual".

But everytime this is suggested it falls on deaf ears...

You're aware that this can be applied to both ends of the spectrum right?

If you're expecting everybody in your party play their jobs competently (competently means a minority of the playerbase with people doing competent and informed rotations and high damage), then you'll likely be better off opening a dedicated PF for it. Or hell, go for a 3 DPS + Tank comp which is objectively better.
If you suck so much that you can't even keep aggro or deal a single damage spell as a healer, ore more likely that you keep dying to the same mechanics again and again, you can indeed as you say ask your FC to help you as well since you will probably prevent clearance of the dungeon or dramatically hamper your chances at it.

But the reality is that the big majority of players you'll be paired with for dungeons do not play well, some will use Cure 1 and pepper some damage spells here and there, some DPS will do lower damage than support jobs, and they'll make your run longer by 2 or 3 minutes for it, but you'll clear the content. If you can't deal with that and want to continue complaining about people being "bad at the game" while running said content, I don't know what to tell you. Your DF will be soon dead if you only expect competent people to queue for it.

[Moqi]

The reality is that the majority of runs are just "say hello, pull w2w, say tfyp and leave" and they run smoothly or with very minor hiccups and the majority of players is competent enough to do just that. There's no need to paint me as some hardcore, min maxed obssesed person because my profile is public and you can see I don't even do Extreme Trials.

If you suck so much that you can't even keep aggro or deal a single damage spell as a healer you can indeed as you say ask your FC to help you as well.

Well this thread was made by such a person so I don't even know why you're trying to argue with me at this point. You're just getting defensive for no reason since we agree!?

[Arohk]

Well this thread was made by such a person so I don't even know why you're trying to argue with me at this point. You're just getting defensive for no reason since we agree!?

If they have problems focusing on all the things happening in a fight , why would they pick a healer to play, that is the most disracting job to do, because you must focus on the party AND the fight.

[Moqi]

Healer actually isn't a bad idea if they can get carried. They can just follow the dorito and spam heals without making the fight take too long.