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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    You want them to have both an instance and ward system? So why does instance housing players get to keep their house no matter how long they quit, but anyone with a plot has to stay subbed indefinitely? Or would you complain if they put the demo timer on a instance house to make it a bit more fair? Or should ward housing have unique traits exclusive to it.That instance houses can't get?

    Instance housing isn't a silver bullet.It creates its own set of problems. Just like ward housing, it has its upsides and downsides.
    Instanced doesn’t need to be subject to auto-demo because it’s not a limited resource like a ward plot. If a ward plot wasn’t demoed, that unused plot is both keeping others from owning a plot as well as taking up server resources to keep it permanently loaded in its neighborhood. Instanced only loads when in use, and doesn’t keep anyone else from getting their own instanced plot. Makes perfect sense… the ward housing comes with the risk of auto-demo, so the only reason to go for one would be truly liking the neighborhood aesthetic, wanting to have venues, all the other reasons people prefer ward housing. Those who just want a place to call their own and decorate, who don’t care about visibility, or even more importantly those who just get a plot for FOMO can choose the instanced version, giving everyone a plot that will always be there for them. If they ever actually created instanced alongside the wards, I think there would probably be a pretty even split, and those choosing instanced would leave more space for those that prefer the wards.

    Should the ward housing have “better” features? No. The whole point of instanced is to offer an alternative that is functionally the same. But the reality of the issue is that instanced housing can support more features than ward housing can. The limitations are holding them back. It’s why the Island can have 100 outdoor furnishings, while a ward mansion gets like 40? It’s why we’re getting interior remodeling and the possibility of upgrading the interior size, because the insides are instanced. There’s so much variety and innovation we’re missing out on. Yes the neighborhood idea is cute and some will always prefer it. But we need more added alongside that. Not just for the lack of supply, but to keep to their goal of being able to compete with other games for another decade. Older games already offer more housing variety, without even requiring a sub. We pay a sub, we should have more options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Instanced doesn’t need to be subject to auto-demo because it’s not a limited resource like a ward plot. If a ward plot wasn’t demoed, that unused plot is both keeping others from owning a plot as well as taking up server resources to keep it permanently loaded in its neighborhood. Instanced only loads when in use, and doesn’t keep anyone else from getting their own instanced plot. Makes perfect sense… the ward housing comes with the risk of auto-demo, so the only reason to go for one would be truly liking the neighborhood aesthetic, wanting to have venues, all the other reasons people prefer ward housing. Those who just want a place to call their own and decorate, who don’t care about visibility, or even more importantly those who just get a plot for FOMO can choose the instanced version, giving everyone a plot that will always be there for them. If they ever actually created instanced alongside the wards, I think there would probably be a pretty even split, and those choosing instanced would leave more space for those that prefer the wards.

    Should the ward housing have “better” features? No. The whole point of instanced is to offer an alternative that is functionally the same. But the reality of the issue is that instanced housing can support more features than ward housing can. The limitations are holding them back. It’s why the Island can have 100 outdoor furnishings, while a ward mansion gets like 40? It’s why we’re getting interior remodeling and the possibility of upgrading the interior size, because the insides are instanced. There’s so much variety and innovation we’re missing out on. Yes the neighborhood idea is cute and some will always prefer it. But we need more added alongside that. Not just for the lack of supply, but to keep to their goal of being able to compete with other games for another decade. Older games already offer more housing variety, without even requiring a sub. We pay a sub, we should have more options.
    I'm with with you on the instanced plot that lacks visibility. But I'm worried they might go the nuclear route. And just change the entire system over and just let the chips fall where they may and not revisit the topic.

    I like the emergent community the ward housing brings and would like to keep it that way, I'm with you on instance private plot that lacks a demo timer and visibility.

    But when I hear instanced housing, I go "yea not a fan of an entire shift to instanced" But your ask is abit more of something I can get behind.
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