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[Supersnow845]

I've heard the hard casts in Ifrit phase may not even do enough damage to warrant using them, due to how much cast time they have. A friend of mine who does Ultimates says he's seen several SMNs in his groups just use the hard cast ruin (Ruin 3?) instead because it gives more damage for the time investment. I really want them to fix that, if nothing else, because knowing that, the skill feels useless to me, now.

Whoever told you ifrit’s hardcasts are a DPS loss has literally no idea what they are talking about

The only “kernel of truth” in that statement is that in its launch state in EW ifrit had a lower PPS (potency per second) than titan who is easier to execute due to being all instants so they buffed ifrit but even before that buff ifrit was always a gain over ruin 3.

The only time you shouldn’t be using primal abilities over ruin 1/2/3 is a wonky level range in the 50’s and 60’s where garuda’s aspected ruin 2’s are a loss over just casting ruin 2

[Ggwppino]

Whoever told you ifrit’s hardcasts are a DPS loss has literally no idea what they are talking about

The only “kernel of truth” in that statement is that in its launch state in EW ifrit had a lower PPS (potency per second) than titan who is easier to execute due to being all instants so they buffed ifrit but even before that buff ifrit was always a gain over ruin 3.

The only time you shouldn’t be using primal abilities over ruin 1/2/3 is a wonky level range in the 50’s and 60’s where garuda’s aspected ruin 2’s are a loss over just casting ruin 2

It depends on the level. At level 70, hard casting ruin 3 offers more pps than ruby, emerald and topaz ruin 3.
This friend was probably doing UCOB.

[AvoSturmfaust]

It depends on the level. At level 70, hard casting ruin 3 offers more pps than ruby, emerald and topaz ruin 3.
This friend was probably doing UCOB.

Even then its not true, at 70 PPS Ifrit is a gain, Titan is neutral, Garu is a loss

[Ggwppino]

Even then its not true, at 70 PPS Ifrit is a gain, Titan is neutral, Garu is a loss

Am I missing something?
in EW, R3 was 310p, so you was almost right, but with DT they buffed it.

[AvoSturmfaust]

Am I missing something?
in EW, R3 was 310p, so you was almost right, but with DT they buffed it.

Ye you miss the part where the increase to 360 comes from a Lv.94 Perk which you dont have at Lv. 70, the Jobguide shows the final Potencys with all Perks etc at 70 it should do iirc around 300, 84 increased it to 310 and 94 to 360

[Ggwppino]

Ye you miss the part where the increase to 360 comes from a Lv.94 Perk which you dont have at Lv. 70, the Jobguide shows the final Potencys with all Perks etc at 70 it should do iirc around 300, 84 increased it to 310 and 94 to 360

fair enough, mb

[Zarkovitch]

day 225, SMN clan got defeated by picto nation due to there damage. Red Mage nation is getting more more utilty than us and they exceed on dmg without the rng. Are we become the jack of all trade master of none? Or our job is so bad right now they cannot fit caster spot like we used too? No, it must be a skill issue.. not a dev issue.