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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    Yea, they don't wanna leave it because where would they jork each other off then?
    Just because some humans are like that does not mean all of them are. Dismissing the Novice Network as that but not the entirety of life - real life, the forums, everywhere - as that, is strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Just because some humans are like that does not mean all of them are. Dismissing the Novice Network as that but not the entirety of life - real life, the forums, everywhere - as that, is strange.
    It is a well known fact people get the easier mentor just so they can go back to NN and jork each other off. They are not there to be helpful nor to be helped.


    Even worse in EU because Sqenix never made containment servers for certain nationalities like WoW and any other game does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purrnauskis View Post
    It is a well known fact people get the easier mentor just so they can go back to NN and jork each other off.
    It is true that trade mentor is too easy to get and a major problem. However, it's not just people getting it to be a loudmouth - that's a minority of people really.
    They are not there to be helpful nor to be helped.
    A lot of the ones who get trade mentor are sprouts, and thus there to be helped or pass on what they were answered previously. Many others either get it to use as a "global chat" or because they want to help others.

    Unfortunately, I feel that trade mentors are often not experienced enough at this - they google questions or copy+paste them because they don't know the answers themselves from raw experience, and that makes them wrong or inaccurate sometimes.

    But really the ones that are really obnoxious or discussing inappropriate stuff are a minority. It's usually just 1 or 2 people that ruin a whole novice network, out of everyone else that is just asking/answering questions.

    As was mentioned by other posters here, if you invite lots of sprouts to the Novice Network, it actually ruins the "mentor bubble" so that they get interrupted with sprout questions constantly, and this helps fix the problem of it being just a "mentor chat" in many cases due to the amount of sprouts intervening.
    Even worse in EU because Sqenix never made containment servers for certain nationalities like WoW and any other game does.
    It is true that certain worlds or regions, are worse than others.

    My experience in the NA region, participating in almost every NA world's network at some point, is that even when there is some obnoxious chatter, it's temporary or seasonal and the offending player will eventually unsubscribe, logout or get bored, returning the network to normal.

    A network synonymous with trolling can be a completely lovely place the very next month, or the next year. It's just a thing that shifts with player activity and patches.

    When the game went viral among streamers, it got especially bad during raid patches because some worlds had trade mentors using twitch language in there endlessly, but it only lasted a few weeks until their subscription ended.
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