Inviting players to the Novice Network

[isevery]

I agree FC invite spam is rude, and an annoyance.
I agree that declining an invite should have some way to prevent being re-invited unless you want it.
I do not agree that acting in accordance with SE's own guidance should come with a handy button to privately message me whatever unpleasantries you wish. If the ingame implementation doesn't permit me to see that someone has already been invited and declined, then how can I possibly be held accountable for that same player receiving a second invite from me, or another mentor at a later date? Am I expected to memorise every player that i have ever invited, when player search returns in excess of 200 characters, which changes dynamically as players log in and out?

I'm not "trying to avoid consequences", as I do not see that verbal abuse as an intended or reasonable response to have to another player trying to invite you to an official game system.
If you want to argue that there is a valid use for mentor's PC names being attached to NN invites, I'd love to discuss that - but I cannot see that it's a feature that exists for the net benefit of anyone in the system as it stands, nor do I think that "Just don't invite people if you don't want to get shouted at" is a constructive comment to make.

[Collin_Sky]

"I want to be rude and spam people with unsolicited invites for things and have complete anonymity while doing so" is all I'm getting from your posts, tbh. It has nothing to do with the repercussions you're facing, the simple fact is what you are doing is considered rude behaviour.

[Wasselin]

"I want to be rude and spam people with unsolicited invites for things and have complete anonymity while doing so" is all I'm getting from your posts, tbh. It has nothing to do with the repercussions you're facing, the simple fact is what you are doing is considered rude behaviour.

Did you read the part of the thread where SE encourages mentors to invite novices to the novice network? If mentors don't invite novices then how will they get into the novice network? Wouldn't it be just as rude to message the novice before sending the invite, as that's also unsolicited and will still be unwelcome if the novice has already declined an invite. At least with the pop up the novice has the ability to auto decline, even if few know it's an option.

[Jeeqbit]

Novice - You've joined the Novice Network.
There are currently ? mentors (max. 100) and ? new adventurers/returners (max. 412) participating.

Use the Player Search to find new adventurers/returners and invite them to the network.
There are no language restrictions on this channel.

[BigCheez]

Did you read the part of the thread where SE encourages mentors to invite novices to the novice network? If mentors don't invite novices then how will they get into the novice network? Wouldn't it be just as rude to message the novice before sending the invite, as that's also unsolicited and will still be unwelcome if the novice has already declined an invite. At least with the pop up the novice has the ability to auto decline, even if few know it's an option.

I don't think the only options are "mass spam raw invites" and "don't invite anyone". Just send a simple /tell saying something along the lines of "hi, would you like an invite to novice network? it's an official text channel for new players to ask questions etc". I think most people would prefer that over just receiving an invite to something a system that they don't know exists.

[Wasselin]

I don't think the only options are "mass spam raw invites" and "don't invite anyone". Just send a simple /tell saying something along the lines of "hi, would you like an invite to novice network? it's an official text channel for new players to ask questions etc". I think most people would prefer that over just receiving an invite to something a system that they don't know exists.

That's exactly what the pop-up says, but there is a command for a novice to pre decline the invite so they don't even have to see it if they don't want.

That way if a novice wants to stop being bugged about the novice network they can. If we send a message before the invite they will continue to be bugged about it by multiple mentors and likely react negatively.

[Exmo]

Free trial players can't /tell.
Most sprouts are free trial.

[PyurBlue]

Did you read the part of the thread where SE encourages mentors to invite novices to the novice network? If mentors don't invite novices then how will they get into the novice network? Wouldn't it be just as rude to message the novice before sending the invite, as that's also unsolicited and will still be unwelcome if the novice has already declined an invite. At least with the pop up the novice has the ability to auto decline, even if few know it's an option.

I don't understand the hate for invites, I much preferred them to tells. The invite is usually self explanatory,especially in the case of NN where it comes with an explanation popup, and if you don't want to participate you can just ignore it. It feels worse to ignore tell and just drags out the unwanted interaction. Plus trial accounts can't reply to tells anyway.

[Valence]

1. This is kinda rude.
3. You want to continue doing this rude behaviour and suffer none of the consequences of doing so.

There is no other way around when you have to invite hundreds of them on your own. The very reason our NN is active and alive is for that specific reason.
I have received some aggressive tells albeit uncommon, and most of the time it's players angry thinking it's yet another invite spamm from FCs, which are the real problem. I don't care much though, most of the tells I get are friendly.

[Lilapop]

This is a you problem. It is important for a sprout to be able to ask questions and send you a /tell because you should be willing and able to answer questions they may have about getting an invite to NN. I have gotten them before, and it's usually the case where they need clarification on what NN actually is before joining.

It's also just a lot more friendly to know a player asked you to join rather than the game randomly giving them a popup asking them to join a chat channel.

"u getting insulted for doing what the game tells u to do as a mentor is a u problem XD"

Lemme pull out one of your favorites... you must be trolling.