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  1. #281
    Player
    MiaBlaze-Cari's Avatar
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    Aug 2021
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    Gridania
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    99
    Character
    Leda Crysthira
    World
    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The response is a joke and I expected more regarding this issue. They're basically taking the easy way out, being oblivious to the actual cause of this entire mess. Cool, they take it down, maybe sue the crap out of the creator and then? Forks and Packetsniffers will still work, the issue will not be fixed and the stalkers will continue with what they're doing because the IDs will still be sent. While I agree that the creator should face legal action it is also of importance to actually fix the actual issue which allows the functionality of such stalking mechanisms. It's just insane...
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    Boop!

  2. #282
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Jan 2017
    Location
    Ul'dah
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    1,445
    Character
    Absenthine Starfrost
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I appreciate the response (even if I don't agree that they are doing much against it) but... why was this posted on here and with *no* post on the Lodestone? Most people won't see this unless they get told about it (I only knew it was posted because I saw it being talked about on Reddit).
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  3. #283
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Oct 2021
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    playing other games like yoshida intended
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    2,464
    Character
    Alondite Ragnell
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The response reminds me of the copy and pasted response to the ddos.
    "we're working on it lol"
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  4. #284
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    TheDustyOne's Avatar
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    Character
    Dusty Two
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    "The Development and Operations teams are aware of the situation and the concerns being raised by the community and are discussing the following options:
    Requesting that the tool in question be removed and deleted.
    Pursuing legal action."

    Or, and hear me out Yoshi, how about you don't let the client know about account IDs at all? You can get rid of this tool, throw lawyers at the developer, only for another guy with a chip on his shoulder to make a similar tool, especially since the data is already out on the internet ready for someone else to take advantage of. This is a very weak, short-sighted response, the only real fix is to reassess the implementation of the new blacklist and move towards a more server-side implementation. If you really, really don't want to do that, then you'd have to compromise on only blocking characters rather than account IDs, which defeats part of the purpose of even having these blacklist changes anyway; just bite the bullet and begin implementing server-side blacklists.
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  5. #285
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    TomsYoungerBro's Avatar
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    Character
    Tim Brady
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The only way to reverse the damage done completely is to revert the blacklist change and add anti-cheat. Square will never do that, so its GG.

    It doesn't matter that they want to pursue legal action to stop the spread. This tool will be passed around through other means that they can't track I'm sure. And since they don't seem to want to revert the change, the amount of new account IDs gathered will only continue to grow. This is what happens when you decide to profit off the dark side of the community instead of trying to mitigate them as much as possible.
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  6. #286
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    SaberEx's Avatar
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    Jun 2022
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    Character
    Free Million
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by NaoSen View Post
    Pre-DT
    1. Location Sharing
    2. Friends List being one sided, allowing someone removed to still track you.
    3. Eternity ring only affecting the person who ends the marriage.
    4. Inability to block or kick someone from your house
    5. No alt protection.

    Current-DT System
    1. Location Sharing
    2. Friends List being one sided, allowing someone removed to still track you.
    3. Eternity ring only affecting the person who ends the marriage.
    4. If third party tools are used person able to track retainers, alts, past character looks, past character locations and more.

    Big laugh, dude it's a game no one's coming for you at night. Just don't pay attention to them/blacklist jesus

    "privacy" lololol over a toon that will cease to exist in 10-15years, your personal info is safe no worries.
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  7. #287
    Player
    SaberEx's Avatar
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    Character
    Free Million
    World
    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    This has always given me the impression that the devs just kinda dont see anything wrong with stalking in general.
    stalking in real life is creepy and a big issue, "stalking" as in following/looking someone in a VIDEOGAME, which btw, you can blacklist and permanently remove the character of your sight. I mean, you can theoretically be "stalked" on any games online but it's just a toon ffs as long as your IRL info is safe idgaf, they can follow me as much as they want
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    Last edited by SaberEx; 01-25-2025 at 12:42 AM.

  8. #288
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    Marooned_Pilot's Avatar
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    Character
    Gilien Goldwater
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    "The Development and Operations teams are aware of the situation and the concerns being raised by the community and are discussing the following options:
    Requesting that the tool in question be removed and deleted.
    Pursuing legal action."

    Or, and hear me out Yoshi, how about you don't let the client know about account IDs at all? You can get rid of this tool, throw lawyers at the developer, only for another guy with a chip on his shoulder to make a similar tool, especially since the data is already out on the internet ready for someone else to take advantage of. This is a very weak, short-sighted response, the only real fix is to reassess the implementation of the new blacklist and move towards a more server-side implementation. If you really, really don't want to do that, then you'd have to compromise on only blocking characters rather than account IDs, which defeats part of the purpose of even having these blacklist changes anyway; just bite the bullet and begin implementing server-side blacklists.
    Agreed. Just another reason for people to quit their sub.
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  9. #289
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Hildibrand's Pocket
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    Character
    Knives Jonquil
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 100
    "We don't want to fix the code, so just stop using it or we'll sue you."

    Yoshida's fucking around and they're gonna find out.
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  10. #290
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    Kishin12345's Avatar
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    Character
    Eldin Valesk
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Since all tools are already forbidden, i dont expect only this tool to be taken out. They are in contact with their legal team, right? So i expect an all out war against plogons and mods. Like with Nintendo. Cease and Desists will fly left and right. Especially since a lot of criticism towards too relaxed safety measures has surfaced and so many call for anti cheat or something to punish tool users harder. People want Square to enforce their stance towards tools.
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