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  1. #271
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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Illao View Post
    Yes and no, i am convinced this is not aimed at a specific Plugin but would be aimed against main repo dalamud devs: not cut a branch, get the whole tree and roots out of ground.

    The thing is, even if they do that, as long as we have a public ID, everyone who spend some months on programming or just knows the basic of how to read even cheatengine can use the account ID, their approach is really odd
    That's ultimately the issue, even nuking the plugin launcher will do nothing when the same can be achieved with a packet sniffer like Wireshark.

    Account IDs need to not be sent to other people's clients period, or this will always be possible, an anti-cheat would do nothing to stop it either.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 01-24-2025 at 07:49 PM.

  2. #272
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Friendlist removal is still one way, right?
    Unfortunately, yeah.
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  3. #273
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    Freja Heleh
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Straticus View Post
    Amazing how they make a post addressing this but take absolutely no responsibility for it. The information should not have been visible in the first place.
    Not surprising. Same story for DT feedback, same for graphical update fiasco. No self awareness they are willing to admit.
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  4. #274
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Unfortunately, yeah.
    This has always given me the impression that the devs just kinda dont see anything wrong with stalking in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  5. #275
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    SilentLynx's Avatar
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    Cassius Maia
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    Famfrit
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    The developers need to alter the way the game handles account information. Anything regarding third party tools is downstream of where the problem resides.
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  6. #276
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    Wired-Lain's Avatar
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    V'rynn Lain
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SilentLynx View Post
    The developers need to alter the way the game handles account information. Anything regarding third party tools is downstream of where the problem resides.
    Yeah, for every very loud and public plugin there are likely a dozen forks doing the exact same thing. This is CBU3s fault at its core with how they botched the blacklisting system and that needs to be addressed internally. A firm letter wont change things.
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  7. #277
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    Eluned Wice
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    At absolute best the current response to this plugin's existence will end up with SE playing whack a mole- constantly trying to take down every new plugin that takes exploits the vulnerability in how the new blacklist is implemented. This is actively dangerous to some users in the game and can cause harrassment.
    I'm sorry, Yoshi P's response is simply not good enough here. The blacklist system needs to be changed again so that this vulnerability can no longer be exploited.
    I know this post is just making the same point several others have made, and I'm sorry for the repetitive comment. But this is a serious issue- this is much more important than chaotic rewards or job balance or homogenization or any other issue people currently have with the game. This is an extremely serious issue of safety and privacy where the mechanism designed to protect people is making them more vulnerable to the people they're trying to protect themselves from.
    I hope Yoshi P is working on a better response that includes taking meaningful action.
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  8. #278
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I was hoping that post would be made to the lodestone, but I guess posting it in the forums will give them less heat for the moment.
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  9. #279
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    Yasu Naoya
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'm impressed they actually replied lol.

    No accountability for their crap code, but oh well, it's better than nothing. Now they just need to patch it.
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  10. #280
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    Macchi Ato
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    The repo has already been forked over a dozen times and is hosted in several countries. Lawsuits won’t do anything. Once again, nothing ever happens. Thanks!
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