Garuda's Wings Clipped: "Where The Wind Blows"

[Fingerbox]

I just don't buy the whole, "I don't wanna play x class, I leveled y class it's my favorite and I should be able to use it" thing. Sure, you may enjoy playing one class more than another, but to not want to play the other classes at all? I've seen this reasoning applied in multiple end game content scenarios across many MMOs, and I've never found the feeling to be true for myself. I enjoy playing caster/magi/wizard classes more than others, but I still enjoy playing the other classes.

Now, I can only guess, but I think that the most likely truth is that players simply don't want to put in the effort to level another class to 50 once they've discovered that their first one was sub-optimal. Not that they wouldn't enjoy doing high end content once that character was capable of it.

After all, the thrill of high end content comes from that feeling at the end, of overcoming a challenge as a team, and that feeling just before the end where you know you're close but not quite a guarantee, and your adrenaline is pumping.

The exact method in which you reach these points is negligible.

[Lux_Rayna]

I just don't buy the whole, "I don't wanna play x class, I leveled y class it's my favorite and I should be able to use it" thing. Sure, you may enjoy playing one class more than another, but to not want to play the other classes at all? I've seen this reasoning applied in multiple end game content scenarios across many MMOs, and I've never found the feeling to be true for myself. I enjoy playing caster/magi/wizard classes more than others, but I still enjoy playing the other classes.
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Well you are different than others. I only enjoy playing lnc, and recently arc. I have no desire to play anything else. I'd rather master two classes than try and learn all of them. I much prefer finding something i like and getting to know it intimately.


EDIT: as for the topic, im convinced ppl are trolling. Melees do very well on Garuda, the only reason BG did what BG did was because those were the roles that worked best for their players. You know how many blm/brd/war stacked parties I saw wipe at even easy Garuda? Quite a few. Its sad. The mistake ppl are going to make is that they'll play too conservatively. From waht ive experienced one whm is more than enough. Outside of gimmicks like AV with the poison, you wont need more than 1 whm for much of anything.

Next, Garuda is very melee dps friendly. Its not like Ifrit who 360 aoes every 3 seconds. Garuda is pretty kind....at least until she goes berserk. After that you just gotta kill her before you all get killed. 2 whms, 3 whms, that shit cannot be outhealed. She will fuck your shit up unless you are hyper offensive.

Honestly, I think the one WHM made more of a difference than having 3 blms or 2 wars. You could have easily substitued a war out for any other melee dps and probably get the same results...assuming that player was comfortable in another role. You could easily switch one blm to another dps and probably get the same results as well, assuming again that player was comfortable in another role.

I'm sure when BG is back at it, they will find that they can successfully do a lot of different setups. That is just what happened to work the first time, calm the f down.

[Starlord]

Well you are different than others. I only enjoy playing lnc, and recently arc. I have no desire to play anything else. I'd rather master two classes than try and learn all of them. I much prefer finding something i like and getting to know it intimately.

Yep, I agree, but everyone is different, and does everything differently.. its just when something first comes out and the content doesn't allow you to do it because of a certain set-up, then you have to wait 2 weeks to a month before getting a chance to do it. Thats my 1 and only gripe with class-stacking or a certain set up.

[Richard_BG]

Yep, I agree, but everyone is different, and does everything differently.. its just when something first comes out and the content doesn't allow you to do it because of a certain set-up, then you have to wait 2 weeks to a month before getting a chance to do it. Thats my 1 and only gripe with class-stacking or a certain set up.

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[Starlord]

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[SynysterBlitz]

Well you are different than others. I only enjoy playing lnc, and recently arc. I have no desire to play anything else. I'd rather master two classes than try and learn all of them. I much prefer finding something i like and getting to know it intimately.

Then don't cry when you're excluded from content.. every content isn't going to made to be able to beat by ANY type of setup.. and you're only hindering your own abilities as a player to be just LNC ONRY!! Cause I would pick someone who can add diversity to a group and not be a liability cause of LNC ONRY.

[Lux_Rayna]

Then don't cry when you're excluded from content.. every content isn't going to made to be able to beat by ANY type of setup.. and you're only hindering your own abilities as a player to be just LNC ONRY!! Cause I would pick someone who can add diversity to a group and not be a liability cause of LNC ONRY.

Lmao WUT?! Who's crying over class stacking? Not i lol.

And I only have so much time. Yes I could learn more by playing more classes but I just dont have the time/desire to do so. My goal in life is not to be a master of ffxiv. I have a lot of interests, so yes I have to limit how far I get in some areas. I'm perfectly happy with that though. I recently picked up arc but I imagine itll stop there. I *might* do monk but i'd rather just learn lnc/arc and gear them accordingly. With a melee class, and a ranged class, its highly unlikely ill ever be excluded from content.

[SynysterBlitz]

Lmao WUT?! Who's crying over class stacking? Not i lol.

And I only have so much time. Yes I could learn more by playing more classes but I just dont have the time/desire to do so. My goal in life is not to be a master of ffxiv. I have a lot of interests, so yes I have to limit how far I get in some areas. I'm perfectly happy with that though. I recently picked up arc but I imagine itll stop there. I *might* do monk but i'd rather just learn lnc/arc and gear them accordingly. With a melee class, and a ranged class, its highly unlikely ill ever be excluded from content.

Don't imply that the ambitions of people who try to be versatile want to be masters of FF14.. I have a life, work, music, friends, women, you get the drift? but with how easy it is to level, whether you're a casual or not it doesn't take much time.. especially if you plan to play this game with long term in mind...

Don't bring in the life card.. cause that means shit all..

[Lux_Rayna]

Don't imply that the ambitions of people who try to be versatile want to be masters of FF14.. I have a life, work, music, friends, women, you get the drift? but with how easy it is to level, whether you're a casual or not it doesn't take much time.. especially if you plan to play this game with long term in mind...

Don't bring in the life card.. cause that means shit all..

I know you're trying really hard to draw me into a troll fight or something but I'm not arguing your point at all. Im just saying your way isnt my way, and im not going to complain about the consequences of my playstyle. What exactly is your issue with me again? Just curious lol

EDIT: I mean really, is there somethign inherently bad about me only playing 2 classes? And if im not grinding im mining. Thus I say I dont really have time. I'm not trying to say my life > yours...im jus sayin I spend my time the way I do, and it does not allow for me to be lvling all the classes. It just doesn't. Thats not even fun for me, and why would i play a game in a way thats not fun?

[SynysterBlitz]

I know you're trying really hard to draw me into a troll fight or something but I'm not arguing your point at all. Im just saying your way isnt my way, and im not going to complain about the consequences of my playstyle. What exactly is your issue with me again? Just curious lol

EDIT: I mean really, is there somethign inherently bad about me only playing 2 classes? And if im not grinding im mining. Thus I say I dont really have time. I'm not trying to say my life > yours...im jus sayin I spend my time the way I do, and it does not allow for me to be lvling all the classes. It just doesn't. Thats not even fun for me, and why would i play a game in a way thats not fun?

I have nothing against you, sorry for making it seem that way, was trying to debate your points, sorry if they came off a little strong, just sucks when everyone is butthurt about community driven aspects.. and yes I do understand your points but I am saying if they content isn't favored to the job of your liking, then what shall you do? and some points aren't exactly directed at you because you do have versatility, mainly for the people who are MNK onry or DRG onry..