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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    How much of that is actually PII, that is seriously debatable though (although I have opted to not use my alts or more than 1 retainer selling stuff for the time being). And again - adding an AntiCheat would not stop the data collection, as you can read the data without actually interfacing with the client itself. Yes, we need a solution here, but we need a solution that actually tackles the problem, not snake oil the normal computer user was made to believe will resolve the issue.

    Personally speaking, I don't want AntiCheat because I like playing the game on my Steam Deck, and I doubt SqEx would enable the required Steam Deck AntiCheat libraries. Thats what I mean with it will only hurt the normal player.
    i mean they should 100% revert the blacklist changes or just fix the code itself to hide that data, but the plugin is what made this easily accessable to EVERYONE. creepy stalker plugin aside, if i was SE i would be quite sick of this game after this whole drama tbh, the game has a serious botting problem as well as raid hacking problems due to plugins. the game is beyond compromised, at some point enough is enough although i dont think they will add anti-cheat anyway. looks like they are trying to sweep this whole thing under the rug. personally, ive unsubbed and am not returning until its fixed, and will buy a brand new account since there are databases out there already.
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    Whatever the solution might be, they should say something. Silence doesn't really help, so hopefully they have already been discussing what can be done and will issue a statement soon.

    Having no official statement to acknowledge things only amplifies player worries and concern as time goes on. Meanwhile it's already in gaming articles, and on several social media platforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shygirly View Post
    i mean they should 100% revert the blacklist changes or just fix the code itself to hide that data, but the plugin is what made this easily accessable to EVERYONE. creepy stalker plugin aside, if i was SE i would be quite sick of this game after this whole drama tbh, the game has a serious botting problem as well as raid hacking problems due to plugins. the game is beyond compromised, at some point enough is enough although i dont think they will add anti-cheat anyway. looks like they are trying to sweep this whole thing under the rug. personally, ive unsubbed and am not returning until its fixed, and will buy a brand new account since there are databases out there already.
    Except, not only would Anti-Cheat not fix this problem it would do absolutely nothing for bots either. I don't know why people view Anti-Cheat as this godlike fix all option that causes no problems and puts an end to all botting. If that was true, World of Warcraft, which uses Anti Cheat, wouldn't have the overwhelming botting problem that it has had since it first launched. Even today you can go out and see hordes of Druid gather bots flying around. All Anti cheat does is impact that average user, in some cases by creating performance issues on machines or by the false positives. And lets be honest, does anyone actually trust SE's current Customer Service team to manage researching and overturning the false positives? I know I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    Except, not only would Anti-Cheat not fix this problem it would do absolutely nothing for bots either. I don't know why people view Anti-Cheat as this godlike fix all option that causes no problems and puts an end to all botting. If that was true, World of Warcraft, which uses Anti Cheat, wouldn't have the overwhelming botting problem that it has had since it first launched. Even today you can go out and see hordes of Druid gather bots flying around. All Anti cheat does is impact that average user, in some cases by creating performance issues on machines or by the false positives. And lets be honest, does anyone actually trust SE's current Customer Service team to manage researching and overturning the false positives? I know I don't.
    I think Warden(WoW's anticheat) was also made by Blizzard back when they had talent. If Square tried making their own anticheat, it would probably be as fundamentally flawed as the blacklist, and if they didn't they would presumably just grab something like Denuvo and destroy performance while accomplishing nothing(like Capcom).
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