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    Kazelus's Avatar
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    Delubrum was already mostly a pf things during ShB particularly after they increased the rewards, it was a nice way to farm relics when you could do it in 15min, and during that time you could find 10+pf during peak hours.

    But Bozja himself got extremely criticized during those patch, it's only because it was the new content with relics that it got a lot of people in it (and it was better than eureka for casual to jump in and out regularly). It's recent success is not even comparable to player activity during release but people in it now likes it better than the one during release.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazelus View Post
    Delubrum was already mostly a pf things during ShB particularly after they increased the rewards, it was a nice way to farm relics when you could do it in 15min, and during that time you could find 10+pf during peak hours.

    But Bozja himself got extremely criticized during those patch, it's only because it was the new content with relics that it got a lot of people in it (and it was better than eureka for casual to jump in and out regularly). It's recent success is not even comparable to player activity during release but people in it now likes it better than the one during release.
    Everything gets “extremely criticised” on launch

    It still has a interaction rate that dwarfs other content and that interaction rate includes aspects of Bozja that the relic doesn’t incentivise

    36% of people who entered Bozja at least once cleared dal more than 10 times. That is insane, the game offers no reward for clearing dal more than once and 36% of people who entered Bozja cleared it 10 times or more. Over 70% of people who entered Bozja made it to Zadnor. 69% of players who were level 80 in ShB attempted Bozja. These are monstrous numbers. It rivals eden normal for on patch interaction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazelus View Post
    Delubrum was already mostly a pf things during ShB particularly after they increased the rewards, it was a nice way to farm relics when you could do it in 15min, and during that time you could find 10+pf during peak hours.
    It wasn't solely a PF thing, the PFs mainly existed because SE is bad at itemization and made the good DPS essences too rare, and made the gap between a full team with good essences vs DF with little to no essences too wide. It could take like an hour and a half in DF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazelus View Post
    Delubrum was already mostly a pf things during ShB particularly after they increased the rewards, it was a nice way to farm relics when you could do it in 15min, and during that time you could find 10+pf during peak hours.

    But Bozja himself got extremely criticized during those patch, it's only because it was the new content with relics that it got a lot of people in it (and it was better than eureka for casual to jump in and out regularly). It's recent success is not even comparable to player activity during release but people in it now likes it better than the one during release.
    Limsa mains will complain about anything they can't just swipe for on Mogstation. Not all criticism is equal.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazelus View Post
    Delubrum was already mostly a pf things during ShB particularly after they increased the rewards, it was a nice way to farm relics when you could do it in 15min, and during that time you could find 10+pf during peak hours[...]
    Not to my experience. I recalled finishing all the Augmented Law Order phase before they nerfed/increased the rewards given & during those periods, pug queues were still pretty much popping under 10m or so. Now obviously they don't finish the run under 25m outside unusual times where 16+ players knows what to do and brings useful essences. But they're far from being "mostly". The split between pug and PF (at least in Aether) was only becoming more noticeable during 5.55-5.58 content draught, at which point pug queues begin to diminish.

    I don't know how different things were in EU, so YMMW.
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