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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    No, I'm not suggesting there are 226k total players. That's 22.3% of the 226k characters tracker by Lalachievements.

    If you want more complete statistics, you can find them here:
    https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58771096.html

    (They're about the same)
    Which isn't the entire active playerbase. You can read what they are able to import. Which makes your post rolling your eyes and using an achievement tracker to defend your point off-base to the point you believe you were making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Which isn't the entire active playerbase. You can read what they are able to import. Which makes your post rolling your eyes and using an achievement tracker to defend your point off-base to the point you believe you were making.
    It's a plenty large enough sample size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    It's a plenty large enough sample size.
    But what it is tracking is the most active players on an achievement ranking board. The players that spend the most time looking for achievements are going to be over-represented when it comes to doing savage compared to the average player which doesn't even get imported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    But what it is tracking is the most active players on an achievement ranking board. The players that spend the most time looking for achievements are going to be over-represented when it comes to doing savage compared to the average player which doesn't even get imported.
    The data is taken from Lodestone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    The data is taken from Lodestone.
    And it only gathers certain characters. The most active of all players with the highest number of achievements. The fact it only has gathered 226K is telling.

    It also thinks 77% of all players have 500 or more commendations....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    It's a plenty large enough sample size.
    The size isn't the problem, my man. It's not an accurate representation of the subscriber count. It's pulling from flawed data.

    The only people who can tell us what the subscriber count is are at Square Enix and they unfortunately don't share that info. So people are left to make educated guesses using imperfect methods like the one you're pointing to. And that's ultimately all it is... a guess. So, while I'm sure the subscriber count has dipped, the info you're pointing to as proof of that really should not be taken as gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NamiRocket View Post
    The size isn't the problem, my man. It's not an accurate representation of the subscriber count. It's pulling from flawed data.

    The only people who can tell us what the subscriber count is are at Square Enix and they unfortunately don't share that info. So people are left to make educated guesses using imperfect methods like the one you're pointing to. And that's ultimately all it is... a guess. So, while I'm sure the subscriber count has dipped, the info you're pointing to as proof of that really should not be taken as gospel.
    Life must be so much simpler when your head is buried this far in the sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Which isn't the entire active playerbase. You can read what they are able to import. Which makes your post rolling your eyes and using an achievement tracker to defend your point off-base to the point you believe you were making.
    it's a large number it's enough to give an idea

    take or leav 3-4%
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