Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Mawlzy]

Quippy, but your response is so unhelpful, so here:

https://youtu.be/WVB6SWIBmj0

https://youtu.be/GCmcGQ_HehQ

You can check these videos out for getting started in Raiding. That's what got me through the anxiety when I thought this content was only for the "god players" out there and to get into PF. I could show you the other guides and videos but they are more specialized and dependent on the role, the job and the encounter you wish to tackle.

I felt my previous responses had explained the situation adequately, but apparently not, so allow me to try again.

First, let's rule out individuals with diagnosable physical and neurological conditions that prevent them from playing combat well. Keep this simple.

Your assertion is that everyone playing FF14, when given the required information, can clear Savage. I think to be fair we must also stipulate that this "clear" involves them not being carried. Okay so far?

For this to be true, Savage content must require an intrinsic level of skill that is below the minimum achievable skill level of all players in 14.

Skill is not some binary, in which absent of disabilities you can do all content in FF14. It's a spectrum. No matter how much information you give people, and how much they practice, each individual will eventually reach a skill cap. Even you Volgia!

Let me try this from the opposite direction. Think of a mechanic you find difficult to handle. Now imagine that the cast time is shorter, or the speed of the attack is faster, or the number of pixels you can safely stand on is reduced. Can you now resolve this mechanic? Can you resolve it if these parameters are made increasingly more difficult?

It seems that because all it takes for you to resolve savage mechanics is information (which in your case I assume is obtained through progging), that you have concluded everyone else can do it too, if only they would try.

This is completely false. You're really good at this. Possibly abnormally so. Most people are not at your level, nor can they achieve it. This is no more controversial than noting that different individuals will have an intrinsic limit on how rapidly they can unscramble a Rubik's cube.

Now I would accept that some people who currently do not attempt Savage could do so successfully if they put in the effort, but this idea that the bulk of the playerbase is not attempting Savage because they are lazy is frankly offensive. Not only is it beyond their current ability, it is beyond their achievable ability.

[Evergrey]

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If this is such a big issue, why haven't this been adressed so much sooner in any other MMO when it comes to raiding?
It is content meant to be difficult and designed that not everyone might be able to do it, that it requires practice and dedication.
It's a shame that individuals with possible handicap/disabilities falls within that category "automatically". But if everything in a game would cater at such a low skill roof then there would be nothing to challenge players besides those individuals.
And maybe if people wants to be able to do exactly everything then maybe FFXIV (and other games that do require such) might not be the right game for them.
There are other games that are by design easier/have a simpler skill roofs. There's no reason to demand a game with a certain design to change because "it's not fair".

[LynxDubh]

Now I would accept that some people who currently do not attempt Savage could do so successfully if they put in the effort, but this idea that the bulk of the playerbase is not attempting Savage because they are lazy is frankly offensive. Not only is it beyond their current ability, it is beyond their achievable ability.

What's more insulting is that you're saying these same people have a snowball's chance in hell in improving. What good is your narrative doing for them if you're essentially saying "you'll never be good enough to clear savage". I'd prefer the approach of "here's some resources to help catch you up to speed" and being helpful rather than what you seem to be suggesting.

[Collin_Sky]

I felt my previous responses had explained the situation adequately, but apparently not, so allow me to try again.

First, let's rule out individuals with diagnosable physical and neurological conditions that prevent them from playing combat well. Keep this simple.

Your assertion is that everyone playing FF14, when given the required information, can clear Savage. I think to be fair we must also stipulate that this "clear" involves them not being carried. Okay so far?

For this to be true, Savage content must require an intrinsic level of skill that is below the minimum achievable skill level of all players in 14.

Skill is not some binary, in which absent of disabilities you can do all content in FF14. It's a spectrum. No matter how much information you give people, and how much they practice, each individual will eventually reach a skill cap. Even you Volgia!

Let me try this from the opposite direction. Think of a mechanic you find difficult to handle. Now imagine that the cast time is shorter, or the speed of the attack is faster, or the number of pixels you can safely stand on is reduced. Can you now resolve this mechanic? Can you resolve it if these parameters are made increasingly more difficult?

It seems that because all it takes for you to resolve savage mechanics is information (which in your case I assume is obtained through progging), that you have concluded everyone else can do it too, if only they would try.

This is completely false. You're really good at this. Possibly abnormally so. Most people are not at your level, nor can they achieve it. This is no more controversial than noting that different individuals will have an intrinsic limit on how rapidly they can unscramble a Rubik's cube.

Now I would accept that some people who currently do not attempt Savage could do so successfully if they put in the effort, but this idea that the bulk of the playerbase is not attempting Savage because they are lazy is frankly offensive. Not only is it beyond their current ability, it is beyond their achievable ability.

All of this can be overcome with practice - every single part of it. I’m currently on 600 pulls of FRU, and my group is likely to clear within the next one or two raid sessions. What do you think all those pulls were? We didn’t just watch guides and immediately jump into clear attempts. We had to practice the mechanics, learn the timings, and understand the nuances of the moment to moment decisions required for each mechanic.

Your intrinsic ability improves as you practice. Unless you’re some kind of savant, everyone needs to put in the effort to improve their skills. That’s how progress works.

The fact that you fail to recognize this is, frankly, sad. It suggests that you see no hope for improvement in yourself and, worse, no reason to even try.

[Saraide]

Not only is it beyond their current ability, it is beyond their achievable ability.

I mean with that mindset, yea it is.