The "Limited time rewards" from Chaotic raids are too low/unimaginative

[MrJPtheAssassin]

To my knowledge, the JP community doesn't use PF at all. You queue through the duty finder and choose either option to your liking. Since they rely more on chat macros, people basically know what to do/where to go and just keep practicing that.

They do use PF, but just to learn. When they close to a clear they will queue up in duty finder instead of looking for a "clear" party in PF like NA and EU does. The will continue to use it to farm. At least that I was always told from ppl who are familiar with how JP does content like this and savage.

[Kuroka]

It sounds so much better... I recall when raid finder was new, we did that with Sophia ex as well, it was fun, no hours of waiting, no arguing, no anything. You clear, or are almost able to, you que, you get your party and try. I miss it...

Oh and it would make it possible to get replacements if someone were to leave or DC...

[MrJPtheAssassin]

It sounds so much better... I recall when raid finder was new, we did that with Sophia ex as well, it was fun, no hours of waiting, no arguing, no anything. You clear, or are almost able to, you que, you get your party and try. I miss it...

I would love that right now...Im currently refreshing PF just to find a fresh learning party that using CODCAR for this fight and have yet to find anything...I actually wanted to try learning this fight tonight and sitting in game for hour just refreshing is so boring! Before someone says something...yes I know I could make my own PF but I hate doing that when I don't have markers and I don't like having to type out a description all the time. I much rather join someone PF than make one myself.. I don't want to have that responsibility

[Rueby]

What baffles me is the RNG element of the bonus....
Pops at random time, random people get bonus while others don't...it doesn't feel good.

I think if you clear during bonus EVERYONE should get a bonus. Happy hour but not for you or me, but maybe RNGesus will love you and give you bonus.

Wouldn't people who leave after queueing for something in DF also get a penalty? Which discourages this chain reaction of one guy leaves after one wipe, everyone leaves? Is that how it is on JP?

[Kuroka]

I much rather join someone PF than make one myself.. I don't want to have that responsibility

Its not just your preference, its just not an real solution to say "you dont like xyz? MAKE your OWN party!!!" cause that splits the PF even more, saw it on sphene when yesterday there were 3 "blind from start" parties which could easily fuse for one full one but nooo... rather lets wait a 45 min >_>

And thats with 8 ppl. If just 3-4 deceide to make their own party for cloud, its 72-96 players needed, or 18-24 Tanks and Healers... thats pretty insane.

[AmiableApkallu]

Its not just your preference, its just not an real solution to say "you dont like xyz? MAKE your OWN party!!!" cause that splits the PF even more, saw it on sphene when yesterday there were 3 "blind from start" parties which could easily fuse for one full one but nooo... rather lets wait a 45 min >_>

If you see parties that can fuse together, then… just fuse them together? There's nothing stopping someone from sending a tell asking some other party to join yours, or stopping your own party from jumping into another one.

The point of "if you don't like X, then create your own party" is precisely that whatever you're looking for in a party can't be fused with some other existing party.

[Kuroka]

I dont make my onws anyways.... but as they start out at different times they get semi filled so you actually cant fuse em anymore - also its just silly to go "oh that party wants the same as me but is one prog point behind/10 ilvl too low... nah ill make my own party!"